uncategorized Threads

• OPPORTUNITY FOR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL IN MEXICO
• Baptized In One Spirit: The Debate Over Spirit Baptism
• I NEED INFO ON WOODROW "WOODY" PHILLIPS
• Where are the missionaries needing church support?
• DEACONESSES
• Qualifications of elders and deacons
• WHERE DID ALL THE LINKS GO?
• Great Article By George Faull!!
• Aarons rod and the ark
• New Web Site
• Anyone Attending the Senior Adult Ministry Conference at Lincoln August 21st-22nd??
• when to change churches?
• What the "Titanic" and "Columbia" Had in Common
• Did Jephthah's daughter die as a sacrifice?
• healing
• The "Virgin of Guadalupe" Cult and How We Do Missions in the CC & COC
• Hello?
• Phil's Definition of Conservative?
• PHIL'S FOLLOWUP TO "HAS GARY E. GILLEY ...."
• Church Growth
• DO YOU HAVE A FULL LIST OF CC & COC BELONGING TO THE WCA?
• DOES THE CGM HAVE NEW AGE CONNECTIONS?
• HAS DAVID DUNLAP DEBUNKED THE CHURCH-GROWTH MYTH
• HAS STEVE MILLS DEBUNKED THE CHURCH GROWTH MYTH?
• Is there such a thing as Unconditional love
• HAS GARY E. GILLEY DEBUNKED THE CHURCH GROWTH MYTH?
• What Are We Doing Right?
• A Disciplined Mind
• OUTCOME-BASED RELIGION
• Home Schooliing
• WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MADISON CHURCH OF CHRIST? A CGM CASE STUDY
• How would you build a church
• When Did Amillennialism Become the Official End-Time Position of the Christian Churches and Churches of Christ?
• dad's baptism
• DOES BILL HYBLES TEACH THE TRUE GOSPEL
• DOES BILLY GRAHAM PREACH THE TRUE GOSPEL?
• RESPONSE TO A FUNDAMENTALIST BAPTIST
• Update on 3 Year Old Alex Ball
• Please Pray for Alex Ball
• Are Churches Who Belong to the WCA a Part of the Brotherhood?
• ARE WE HEADED FOR ANOTHER SPLIT IN THE MOVEMENT?
• Pension Fund
• Prayer Request
• What is Saders Cup
• Discipling New Believers
• New Discussion Board for Pastors
• What Should a Missionary do With Jury Duty?
• Bill Cosby Has No Respectibility!!
• Time Out to Pray for Each Other
• UPCOMING CRA SYMPOSIUM ON THE HOLY SPIRIT
• THE BUCHANAN HATE MONGERS AT IT AGAIN
• Jesus name
• Good Book Recommendation
• OK, SO WHAT IS THE POINT? I STILL DON'T GET IT!
• CAN A TRUE CHRISTIAN BE DEMON-POSESSED?
• Working with interns
• Theology Simplified
• Question
• WAS ROGER CHAMBERS WRONG ABOUT ISRAEL?
• CHANGE AGENTS IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?
• "Lord of the Rings" Update
• "Shekinah Glory".....What's the Origin of That Term??
• WHERE ARE THE CONSERVATIVES WHEN YOU NEED THEM
• Cultiic Update
• CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AND THE SOCIAL GOSPEL
• T Minus 20 Days and Counting...
• Dealings with DFS
• What happens to church's that fight and power monger
• How do you survive your past and put it behind you
• DOUBLE STANDARD IN U.S. WAR ON TERRORISM
• CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AND PSYCHOLOGY
• When God Builds A Church
• Best Time Of Year To Start Double Services??
• Need a book title
• Web Sites.....Are They Worth the Money????
• New Projection System Up and Running!!!
• Laying on of hands
• More on Gwen Shamblin/Remnant Fellowship
• Parsonage Allowance May Be Ruled "UnConstitutional"
• JOSEPH CHAMBERS ON "LORD OF THE RINGS"
• ARE WE AMILLENNIALISTS? PRE? OR POST?
• Christian Required Reading List
• Interesting discussion
• More Reasons to Snub the N.I.V.
• Seventh Day Adventism a cult?
• New Homeschool Email Site
• What's Happening to Us?
• Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones
• LifeStages Book
• Number of Participants Now Stands At........
• The Purpose Of Our Worship Services
• It Takes Guts to Say Jesus
• Overhead Projection Systems
• WHO IS THE "THEY" IN ACTS 2:1
• The Winter Olympics.......Who Cares???
• Making a Stand Against the Lottery: Based on What???
• Another Baptism Thread (Oh no!!!)
• Welcome to the New "Saffold" Free Forum!!!
• N.I.V. People to Produce the "Gender-Neutral" Bible
• The "Hard Truth" Pro-Life Video
• Men's ministry
• Something Else About Cardinals
• Power struggles
• Not another question re: immersion, but ...
• RESTORATION MOVEMENT: Theory and Practice
• DEATHBED CONVERSIONS: PART TWO
• 'Off-Track' Deletions
• John's baptism
• Can't People Work Together??!!!
• Deathbed Conversions
• Advice on Almsgiving
• Is it Church of Christ ... or church of Christ?
• Lord of the Rings
• Small Groups
• Web Site finally working
• Does the "Church of Christ" celebrate Christmas?
• Sinless Perfection
• SPIRIT BAPTISM FOR ALL BELIEVERS- Our Historical View
• HOLY IMPERFECTION: The Tybeck vs. Wilson Controversy
• HOW MANY DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
• Now We Will See Islam For What It Is
• Uh-Oh....They Are Coming After Our "Ho-Ho's" and "Ding Dongs" Now!!!
• Scott Jewell
• What do you mean we, white man?
• 1st Century Jews used instruments?
• IS THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH & CHURCH OF CHRIST A CULT?
• Authorization Debate Peanut Gallery
• Authorization Debate
• Formal Debate Challenge
• Does Anybody Care About the Lost?
• For E. Lee
• D. Lee....I Messed Up......
• The Holy Spirit and the believer's understanding
• Handclapping... PART TWO
• Restoration Movement
• ARE ANY OTHER CC or COC FORUMS OUT THERE?
• CONVENIENT SERVER ERROR?
• Women Of Faith-- Promise Keeperettes?
• Hey, Restoration History Buffs ...
• An open apology to all concerned
• Bilingual Church Plant in Salinas, CA. or Nogales, AZ?
• "End Times Fiction"
• The Twin Towers Attack--God's Fault?
• Please Note
• PROMISE KEEPERS
• HAS DIRECT-SUPPORT MISSIONS DIED?
• Evangelistic Associations and Control
• Another Major Split in the Restoration Movement?
• "THE REMNANT" - Joe Carson Smith
• Is Islam a threat to national security?
• A Response From Billy Graham
• Deer Hunting -- Big Buck
• The popes last day lies
• How Does The Holy Spirit Indwell?
• What Do We Have In Common?
• Another Inconsistency of the "Authorization Only" Hermeneutic
• What About Hand Clapping?
• Open question to acapella brthren
• Bill and E. Lee Debate
• This is a test thread! Join in!
• Open Theism
• Grace Centered Magazine
• Claims of Christ Book Now Available
• meaning of "Cardinal" in the Catholic Church hierarchy
• Matthew 18:15-18
• More Reason Not to Support Billy Graham!!
• Is there a heaven or hell presently?
• e-mail
• seeking insight
• ebiblestudy.org
• Can we Learn From B. Stone?
• Restoration statistics
• Thailand information request
• Do you really love God?
• America's Last Gasp?
• New Apologetics Website
• I Would Like Your Prayers
• Falwell and Robertson......Are Right!!!!
• End Times - One Man's Opinion
• Pearl Harbor Again!!!!
• forum
• Re connect
• Divorce and church leadership
• Attitude toward certain churches within the RM
• A follow up thread on marriage and 2nd marriages
• False Teachers, i.e. the instrumental issue
• Summit Theological Seminary
• Bible Book of the Month Program
• A People of the Book????
• Bush's Decision On Stem Cell Research
• Another View of the "Sinful Nature"
• Elder, Deacons, and Preachers duties
• Alexander Campbell on "The Sinful Nature"
• Calling Bible Things By Bible Names
• Statement of Faith
• Danny's Doctorate
• Ever preached on...
• A Reason For Shame
• will gays enter heaven if they are a born again christian?
• At What Age ???
• VBS.....Still Valid......or a Relic of the Past??
• Bush's "Faith Based" Initiative
• New Rules for the Forum
• Gospel minutes?
• Microsoft Office XP
• The original (to Barry Hanson) - Was the repentant Thief really told he’d be in heaven with Jesus
• Reasons the "anti-Christs" and the "Man of Lawlessness" ARE NOT The Same
• in adam all dies--in CHRIST[ALL]shall be made alive
• Is Baptism Valid When Its Purpose is Misunderstood?
• Was the repentant Thief really told he’d be in heaven with Jesus?
• Are there any church planters here?
• A Movie series...
• So Much For Japan's "Safe Society"
• Anybody going to the NACC?
• Was the repentant Thief really told he’d be in heaven with Jesus?
• A concept of The Divine plan
• A Heartfelt Thanks to Michael Demastus!!
• Pearl Harbor the movie...
• Abortion
• The OT, prisons, Singapore, and social justice
• Faith
• Do you believe these verses?
• See, I am not really Liberal
• Going to Heaven when you die.
• 'Liberal' social welfare in Scripture
• Pacifism -- What Definition?
• Starting over...
• Liberals Love to Make Eternal Judgments!
• Calling people stupid or idiot
• Abstaining from Blood and transfusion?
• Invite to another forum...
• Rvival of an old unfinshed discussion Concerning baptism
• Will you please help me find a thread?
• An awkward occurence with a preacher
• Looking for Ray Bennette Cell Phone #
• What happens to those who never knew the Christ, about him or died before he came?
• The Baptist Dog
• Send the Light
• Are Catholics Christian?
• Save Money or Earn Extra Income
• What happened to thechristianchurch.com?
• The Thriller!
• Serving (or not serving) in the acappella churches of Christ
• "I Bear You My Testimony ..."
• A Quarterly Evaluation for Ministers?
• where is this in the Bible?
• Lee Saffold (and others).....Meet the "Real" CG White
• Sorry, I should not have posted, Hate for Profit.
• Hate for Profit
• Methods of immersion (triple-dip, kneeling, etc.)
• PRAISES! PRAISES! Get your PRAISES here!
• B.O.R.I.N.G (Continued)
• Who were the "wisemen" ?
• What is "Easter" and why all the fertility symbols?
• Bor-i-i-i-ng!!!!
• CoC evangelist concept?
• 1500 members and no elders
• $$$$$$$
• King James Version
• Looking for a quote
• Faith comes by hearing, and that of hearing the word of God
• Who was taking notes?
• According to you what is the "Good News"
• KING JAMES?
• Is the use of delegated donations somewhere else a felony?
• Why non-instrumental?
• Baptismal Regeneration
• Home Meetings compared to Bpatism by Immersion
• NT instructions often ignored in RM (meetings)
• sophia
• Pictures of the 2001 Christian Church Father/Child Hunt
• "Slain in the Spirit?"
• Pre-mil the oldest view
• Saved without the Spirit?
• From a Catholic Forum
• INfant Baptism and church history
• The Continuance of Biblical Spiritual Gifts
• What beliefs are essential to being a Christian
• Sir, We Would See Jesus
• Are miracles psychosomatic?
• A Great Point!!!
• California.....You Gotta Luv It!!!!
• Ahhhhhhh.......Don't It Feel Good!!!!!
• Is the Death Penalty supported by Scripture?
• Clinton Wants Felons to Vote
• 'First Christian Church' on Walker, Texas Ranger
• Any ideas where I can pass on out-of-date Lookouts, Standards, etc?
• Another Reason.....To Keep Your Kids From MTV
• When Will Republicans Learn???
• Understanding the Trinity
• Gwen Shamblin part II
• George to the World
• Merry Christmas
• New Improved Election Pie!
• Two Less Federal Holidays!!
• Adoption
• It Ain't Over Yet!!!
• What The Second Amendment REALLY Means
• Antioch as a prototype church
• A Teacher's letter to Al Gore
• Pray for Bush to Win
• We're So Sorry, Uncle Albert
• Lest We Forget: "December 7th, 1941; A Day That Will Live in Infamy."
• Santa Claus is a Woman!!!
• Investment and Retirement Options for Preachers
• A POEM
• We all have to Pray together with the Love of God in our Hearts. Next prayer session will be Dec. 10, 2000 at noon,EST. Pray for the homeless, orphans, misguided, the lost souls, to end war forever, to end the Darkness forever. United we stand. Divided we Fall. God Bless All. Don't expect God to clean up our mess. It is up to us.
• Tongues Of Fire
• Elders must be pastors
• Gore Gets Gonged
• A Lesson from History
• Lightening up
• A great poem
• Hey......You Florida Gore Voters.....
• A dumb blond joke
• Al Gore by Dr. Suess
• "Could it happen in America?"/Gun control
• "The Debate" -- Has it happened?
• Hey, Duane ~ What are the capital 'B's and the squares?
• John Wilson!!!
• A NEW DISCUSSION LIST
• Known by deeds
• Is smoking sin?
• Does God answer the sinner's prayer?
• Was America really founded on Christianity?
• POWER breeds POWER
• "HAVE YOU THOUGHT?"
• Art Linkletter's take on PADD
• Evangelical baptism
• Keeping it simple??
• Elders must rule own houses well
• Halloween
• Why Is Gore Going to Win the Election
• Something other than Jaci V. and DCTalk.
• Do they think we're stupid?
• The Christian Flag
• Mission/Vission Statements
• Knowing a man's heart
• Oh ye of little faith
• The Conscience/What is its purpose?
• What is a Pastor....in the Christian Church?
• Does it really matter if the Bible is the Word of God?
• This came into my inbox today/sad....about attitude
• Health Care IS NOT a "Right"
• Something to consider/debating the war question
• Is suicide sin?
• Is it morally wrong to believe error?
• When, and how, do we "get" the Holy Spirit?
• Women in the Baptistry?
• Gwenn Shamblin (WeighDown Workshop) blasphemes Jesus!
• Planting Churches??
• A Sequel to the Preacher's Coffee
• Please read and give your opinion
• The Preacher's Coffee
• A poem on Acts 2:38
• What has the Eldership done to the Kingdom??
• The Holy Ghost directing people
• Unsubscribe
• What about 118??
• Specific Answers to Prayer
• When Tomorrow Starts Without Me
• Any good studies in the Book of Acts?
• John and Patsy Ramsey and JonBenet
• Prayers Offered to Jesus
• what is doctrines-of-demons??
• A Satir...uh, I mean a story/sorry if I sent this before
• "I BEGGED YOU FOR MY LIFE"/The Aborted Child
• Cliques??
• "Ccccccccccccaaaan't We All Just Get Along?"
• Why IS Connie here.....
• Ooparts (out of place artifacts) & Ancient Hi Tech--Evidence of Noah's Flood?
• Duane...I need your help!
• It Doesn't Do Any Good!!
• The "spirit" of the Age is Alive and Well On This Forum!
• Seriously Connie, Why Are You Here??
• Tithing and all
• The True Purpose of Speaking in Tongues
• Nelta, oh Nelta!!!
• Danny, oh Danny!
• Are Christians "Free" to be Masons?
• THE BEREANS
• Was the Server Down?
• Authority over Demons
• Does 'baptizo' in Greek mean immerse?
• I can't believe it
• Tithe on gross or net?
• Lee Saffold are you out there?
• A TRIBUTE TO NORMA
• Stone/Campbell Movement?
• Boston Movement
• Early Christians with instrumental music
• "A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum..."
• What is a pastor?
• Holy Communion as a meal
• ATTITUDE??
• Anybody got a Directory of the Ministry?
• Health Insurance Companys....You Gotta Love 'Em!!
• Mount of Olives
• Finally a Decent Dental Benefits Plan!
• The role of ELDERS
• 2 tough guys
• Apostles, yesterday and today
• Why RM folks should be interested in house churches
• CoC definition of 'evangelist.'
• 1 Cor. 16:1-2
• The "Harry Potter" Craze
• Spritual gifts, emotion, and Bible interpretation
• Prayer
• Digression vs scripture
• Church buildings a waste of money
• Sermons unbiblical?
• New list for discussing the ad70 *theory*
• Christian Church search in MA
• Can someone help me find a church?
• Eat At Joe's needs to find Anthony!!!!!!
• Baptist NOT Faith Only!!!!
• Church of Christ H.S. Theology...What's Up With That?
• Nate Graham......Are You Out There??
• No anonymous threads
• Let's Get It Started.....The Debate That Is!!
• Acts 20:7
• Here's Another....."Where's the Scripture??"
• Would You Still Vote for Bush If...........
• Communion for Immersed Believers Only???
• Maybe this will end the "discussion/debate" controversy
• World Religions Textbook
• Engaging the culture
• Morality
• 2000 Christian Church Hog Hunt Picture Album
• Abortion
• Church statistics?
• A Special Word of Thanks.........
• It's TIME for a Serious "Instrumental Music" Debate
• Everybody click "Ask A Question" at the TOP! (need your opinion)
• From the home page of the Gideon's
• Time to "revamp" this forum ?????
• The Church of the Many Titles
• A question to the forum
• One of the good guys
• Is BELIEF a WORK?
• A new (Counseling) list has emerged
• Evils of usury!
• Help for Hearing Impaired
• Church Boards
• The Sinners Prayer rears its ugly head again
• "For all have sinned (Greek: past tense) and........
• Final summing up
• The Church of the Guarded Pulpit
• Ignorance is bliss? so sounds the imperious voice
• FW: JOKE and MOTHER's DAY virus warning: This is the same as ILOVEYOU virus!
• From a preacher's wife....borrowed
• Nelta's Little Corner of the World/new web site
• Welcome Back, Nelta!
• Love of Money! And other things
• To Matt, Mike, and Chad
• A Fool According to His Folly
• 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin"
• Defining Grace
• Goodbye Forum
• Against Sinless Perfection
• At What Times are We to Worship According to the Scriptures?
• Hey, Dwight! 'Splain this, please?
• To those of you deleting threads...
• Why is it Only the Bible is true, or is it?
• How would you handle this?
• can we be complete
• Why call it "Easter"?
• Baptised in snow?
• Come now and worship the BEAST!
• Accuracy Of Passion Play And Movies
• Pictures from our "Story of Jesus" trip
• Hey Preachers...Can you recommend Health/Dental Insurance?????
• Family Life
• Secret Rapture or Resurrection
• When you leave a ministry... do you stay at the church?
• Serious Help Needed
• What pays higher dividends?
• Sincerity
• Creeds divide
• Jesus is coming to dinner?
• Another Gospel
• sinless perfect
• I'm preaching at a 7th Day Adventist Church!
• Duane, This One Is For You!!!
• What happened
• Stone of Destiny
• Story of Jesus.... Wauchula, Florida
• Update on Armstrongism and the Worldwide Church of God
• Faith/Works/Baptism
• John R W Stott Outline
• Miracles versus Providence
• Should Christians Be Concerned About the Current Gun Control Debate?
• Different Bible Versions
• Salvation Issues (Cont.)
• Keeping Up With Things Church...hires a preacher
• Let's all meet at Hillsboro Family Camp!
• Was the Holy Spirit in Error??
• Is Satan a fallen angel named Lucifer?
• Giving it up
• Arguing is a virtue
• You Hate to See the "Good Guys" Leave
• Let's talk about the M-word
• You be the judge ...
• To the teachers and preachers of the lost
• Bush or Gore?
• "Christian Church (a.k.a. The Restoration Movement...again
• Attention Mark Hillyard
• My Mama Says.........
• 10 reasons NOT to become a missionary
• Michael Demastus.......Remember the "Good Ole' Days??"
• Letter from Pontius Pilate
• Andrew Peterson CD debut
• The Two Greatest Commandments.......In Perspective
• What is " Christian Church (a.k.a., The Restoration Movement)"
• Did I not say we were drifting??
• A LETTER FROM THE FUTURE
• Abortion -- should we be idealistic, or realistic?
• McCain or Bush???
• The What's Happening Now Church..legalist/grace
• use of instruments
• Thoughts on Romans 10, 9 & 10
• Looking for Urban Ministries
• sheepcomics---funny but....
• John Huss
• Josephus and other Marks of Israel
• Internet resources
• The Fisherman...Guidewords by Sharon
• Lee on Hiding
• Does anyone here like Church History?
• Pre-Millinnialism
• Once saved, always saved?
• "deeds of the Nicolaitanes"
• Excerpt from "The Open Church"
• The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness
• Santification through marriage?
• The What's Happening Now Church...Preacher change
• What Do You Preachers Like To Do??
• Mark Hillyard...Explanation Needed!
• Is God going to have a good Isaac on the heathen?
• How long did it take to build the Ark?
• When Tradition Becomes Dogma
• Does Sunday School still work? (Suggestions on what to do when space is small)
• When "Uncomfortableness" Leads to "Conspiracy"
• The Lottery?? Do You Preach Against It??
• Worldliness....What is it??....Who defines it??
• Are We Correct in Teaching Abstinence??
• Elders
• Doing Church
• Response to Lee on Eldership
• Judas the devil
• The What's Happening Now Church....placing "membership.
• Christians ? Ha !!
• You have GOT to see this photo!
• Stone Kingdom?
• Thoughts On Iconoclasm, Constantine V and the council of Hieria
• Think to change times?
• How about some response?
• False religion or not
• Sin or Disease?
• Orrin Hatch calls conservative Christians "absolutely loony"
• Congregational Covenants ... yes or no!?!?!
• "chemistry" of the church
• Prayer For JBC Missionaries
• A Sermon Series...
• Click on the word "About" shown above!
• A final post...to Duane on Summing up my part of the Eldership subject nb
• Where does the Church get the authority to marry?
• Eldership Business Meeting - nb
• "Private" Baptisms?
• PICTURES ON THE WALL
• Funny
• Ministering To The The Military
• Is "restorationism" as a concept still valid?
• Baptism of the Holy Spirit?
• From Chaos to Community
• How inspired are the scriptures?
• Divorced Elders?
• SIN...A Big Joke
• Needed: Name of a Good, Conservative Bible Dictionary
• Seen a good (or bad) movie recently?
• 4th Annual Preacher/Elder Hog Hunt in FLA
• Name of God change to "Sophia" ?????
• The unpardonable sin
• The Ethics of Forwarding E-Mail
• America the Beautiful by Judge Moore
• What is an Evanglist??
• Why do we meet together??
• How big is too big? When does big mean negative?
• Who wrote it?
• Chorus Projection System Info Needd
• The worth of a child
• A money question
• What should be number one ... the church or the family
• Minister's Reports? Anybody?
• Institutionalism...defined
• Stain Glass..p-2 (concerning the poor)
• Captive audience
• Preacher/Evangelsit as Elder
• God Is Not Yo Daddy!!!!
• New list
• anyone know: Dave?
• Christians killing...or loving??
• So How's It Going???
• Modern day "tongues" speaking, etc.
• HEY VETS!
• What about worship?
• Selection of Elders in a New Congregaton
• The Trouble with Stain Glass?
• Pokemon?
• The Proper Hermeneutic ... How Do We Know?
• *Leadership*....more on Duane's questions
• God a respector of persons??
• "Because that is the way it has always been."
• Requested/Emoticons/Acronyms---short cuts
• preterist
• A "High" View of Inerrancy.......the Only Ground for Debate
• Leadership -- Matt. 23
• The Direction of Bible Colleges.....Are You Happy??
• *Leadership*
• Evil---abstain..... (more on Halloween)
• Halloween Festivities?......
• Evangelism....The #1 Job of the Church?????
• Falwell is Caving.....Are We Next????
• Is this the way it was?
• Simplicity
• What is the "perfect" in I Corinthians 13:10?
• Something to think about?/off the web
• The Spiritual Area of Life?
• Is Our Movement Dead?
• Local Congregational Membership?
• Are "Maintenance Churches" what God had in mind?
• Titles in the Kingdom
• What do you sing?
• Can ... or should ... a preacher/evangelist rebuke an elder?
• PK: Here's What It Boils Down to For Me
• Youth Minister Salaries
• A Sad Lament for the stinking rotten REDS!
• "Are You a Reactor or a Responder?"
• 1 Peter 3 and Baptism
• This Judgmental Attitude We Have...
• I visited the thechristianchurch.com and......
• Saturday Evening Services?
• Jesus and baptism
• ..............................................................................................PUT YOUR CHURCH ON THE MAP!
• The Language Jesus spoke?
• False Teachers & Doctrines
• WHATEVER HAPPENED TO............? (fill in the blank!)