Lee, I don't usually read your posts because if I wanted to read a book I would turn off the computer and read one. But I was looking through a thread and believe it or not I saw my name in one of the posting, slandering me of course. (I wonder how many other posts of yours you have done the same thing.) I never have run and hid. There is just so much one can present and when it is blasted it is time to quit. In fact, doesn't the wise one in Proverbs say not to answer a fool in his folly?

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2000

Answers

Which more than explains the reasons for H. W. Armstrong's extreme racism.

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2000

Nelta:

You RAN away from and continue to run from your sin against your brother Danny Gabbard, in this forum wherein youo falsely accused him of "having something against women". You have sinned against your Brother Danny in this forum by falsely accusing him of "having something against women." You have never offered any evidence from anything that Danny has said in this forum that would justify your false accusation against him. You have therefore clearly accused him falsely and you have done so publicly. I have shown that to be the case and you have not written anything to substantiate your claim nor have you repented. You have, in fact completely ignored this issue. You received a lot of criticism for these false accusations. You were asked a lot of questions about them. You ran away and even told us that you were not going to participate in this forum any more. You also claimed that there was no "GREEK WORD FOR AUTHORITY in the New Testament" and we showed you plenty of Greek words for authority in the New Testament. But you RAN away and did not respond to anything that was said to you concerning the subject. You claimed that Danny had said things publicly that he should have said to you in private. Brother Danny and I asked you to specified exactly what you were talking about and again you RAN away and did not respond.

Your tactic is to ignore what everyone has said to you until all that are reading in the forum have had time to forget all that transpired. This way you can look as if you are innocent when someone responds to you at a later date. For that reason I will quote two post where I have called upon you to repent of the sins you have committed in this forum.

You slandered Brother Danny for you have falsely accused him of "having something against women". I have shown that to be the truth and you RAN away and did not deal with it. You still refuse to repent of having done such a thing. Now you want to come in here and after everyone has had time to forget your evil deeds claim that I am slandering you when I say that you RUN AWAY from the arguments that are presented against your false teachings. Well, I have not slandered you Sister Nelta, when I tell the truth that you deliberately run away and refuse to answer arguments that are made against you. You have also refused to repent of your false accusations against Brother Danny Gabbard, who is your Brother in Christ whom you have falsely accused of "having something against women". Yes, Nelta, it is true. You do not even attempt to answer the hard questions that you are asked. And you have without question completely refused to repent of your open and deliberate sin against your brother, Danny Gabbard, whom you slandered maliciously in this form with nothing less than absolute false accusations that you knew were completely false when you made them. Now I can and I will quote just one of my post that you HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED CONCERNING THIS MATTER. I WILL QUOTE SEVERAL OTHERS IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT YOU run away from the truth when you are confronted with it. THIS FACT ALMOST EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM KNOWS TO BE TRUE. Therefore I have not slandered you at all. Instead I have been admonishing you to repent of your evil deeds as is evidenced by your false accusation that you leveled against Brother Danny Gabbard in this forum and have stubbornly refused to repent in the face of irrefutable evidence that you are guilty of having done this thing. Yes, Nelta, You have been running away from this and you continue to do so. I urge you again to face the truth and repent of this evil. I have an obligation to call upon you to be accountable for your deeds for our God will hold you accountable in the judgement for this sin you have committed and refuse to repent of having committed.

Now I will just quote one of the many posts that I have written concerning these matters to you that you have completely ignored. I can and I will quote the others. You can try to respond to them now, several months later if you like. You may find, however, that the readers in this forum have not forgotten as much as you hope that will have forgotten. If they do forget I will remind them by quoting whatever is necessary to continue to hold you to account for your evil deeds. Repent, Nelta, for your very soul is at stake in these matters.

All those who are ignorant of what has transpired to in the past with Nelta in this forum stay out of this argument until you read enough to be informed concerning her lies and deceptive tactics. These are the reasons why I am calling upon her to repent.

This is just one of MANY of my post that you have completely ignored:

"Nelta:

I now quote your following words with a response.

"I have received private responses to my criticism of Danny on the forum. Each has suggested (kindly) that what I had to say to Danny should have been sent privately. I agree with that. This should never have been brough public. I am sorry for that and apology to the forum and to Danny. As one person said, that is what Christ would want me to do, and I agree. I will continue to post on the forum but in a kinder way."

Now this statement of yours has every appearance of being an apology but it is everything but an apology for your actual wrong- doing. Under the thread that you entitled, "Danny and the women" you falsely accused Brother Danny of "having something against women". This thread appears to have been removed from the message board so that I am not able to quote it in full for all to see. Nevertheless, you accused Brother Danny of having something against women without offering any evidence whatsoever of his having said anything in this forum that would justify such a claim.

You have yet to specify anything that he has specifically said against women in this forum. Then you come back and apologize for having publicly said things to Danny that you should have said in private. By doing so you leave the impression of being apologetic when in fact you have left a false impression that the things you have said about brother Danny were true and that your only wrong was to have said so publicly. If Brother Danny has said anything PUBLICLY against women it is not wrong to PUBLICLY correct him. But the truth is that he has not done any such thing and your transgression is not that you accused him PUBLICLY but because you have accused him FALSELY. Even if you were to have PRIVATELY accused him FALSELY it would be sinful. For a LIE is always sinful whether it is a PUBLIC LIE or a PRIVATE one!

For this very reason you have left an innocent "bystander" with the impression that women are not treated fairly in this forum. Her false impression, that you are responsible for giving her, is evident from her words which I now quote: "By apologizing, you've given these guys the upper hand. How can they be expected to avoid the temptation to exercise their dominance over you? Especially the ones who already have a low opinion of women." From these words one can see that she has the impression that we want to "have the upper hand" over you and that especially applies to those in this forum who "already have a low opinion of women". Now the truth is that no one in this forum, especially Brother Danny, has demonstrated by any single word that they have said that they have a "low opinion of women". I have not read one single word that was written that could be construed to be a personal attack upon women just because they are women. NONE! But by "playing the gender card" as you have done in your completely FALSE and UNSUBSTANTIATED charge against Brother Danny has left this innocent "bystander" with a completely false impression of both Danny and this forum. Therefore she is seeking to defend you from being "persecuted" just because you are a woman when in fact you have suffered absolutely no harm whatsoever in this forum just because you are a woman. But you are so willing to let this LIE stand without either proving with specific examples that Danny or anyone else in this forum has EVER had anything against you "just because you are a woman". Even our innocent "bystander" does not have or at least does not offer a single example of anyone in this forum that genuinely has anything "against women". But she still thinks that you should go to another board referring especially to "those who have a low opinion of women" as the reason you should leave. Yet she has not, because she cannot, point to a single example of ANYONE in this forum who has demonstrated by their words that they, in fact, have a low opinion of women. Therefore your sin has not only injured your Brother Danny, who is completely innocent of your false charge. It is also against the rest of us in this forum who have spoken in defense of Brother Danny against your false charge because it appears that we too have "something against women". Now, Nelta, you, and you alone are responsible for this sin. This is a sin that you have committed publicly and therefore it is one for which you should publicly repent. Merely apologizing for having said these things publicly instead of being discrete enough to say it privately is not repentance for what you have done. You have Falsely accused your brother and you have done that publicly in such a way as to bring a false impression of the rest of us in this forum as if many of us have something against women. Either prove that your accusations against Danny and the rest of us who are defending him are true or repent publicly so that others such as our innocent "bystander" can see that it was Nelta who sinned in this matter and not Brother Danny or anyone else in this forum. Tell her the truth that you cannot give one single example from the words of Brother Danny or anyone else in this forum that would justify drawing the conclusion that anyone in this forum has anything against women. If you cannot do this then you can rest assured that our Lord Jesus Christ is not pleased with your "pretentious" apology. For By apologizing for the wrong thing you leave the FALSE impression that you are a "poor persecuted woman" who is being brow beaten by a bunch of "domineering men who claim to be Christians but have "something against women". This impression, which you are well aware is your intention to make, is a false one to the core and I defy anyone to prove that we have demonstrated any lack of respect in this forum toward any person just because they are of the feminine gender!

Your apology is not acceptable because it is not for the sin that you have committed here on this board. Such is not at all what the Lord would have you to do. Until you genuinely repent you cannot and will not be forgiven by our Lord Jesus Christ for such evil intent.

Now I do not pretend that what I have said to you will be received well by anyone. But what I have said is true. It needed to be said and it needed to be said publicly. You should repent of this sin publicly. I urge you because I care for your soul to turn from this evil completely. I do not ask that you repent for my sake. For my soul is not in danger in this matter. If I sat idly by without telling you these truths my soul would be at stake. So even if you do not repent my hands are clean of your blood and your soul will be required at your own hand. Now you may think all of this is frivolous but sin is never frivolous. " The Lords hands are not shortened that it cannot save neither is his ear heavy that he cannot hear; but your iniquities have separated between you and your God and your sins have hid His face from you that he WILL NOT HEAR." Isaiah 59:1,2. When Peter found Simon to be in the "Gall of bitterness and the bound of iniquity" he told him to "repent and pray God if the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee". I call upon you to do the same. "Repent and pray God that the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee."

I do pray fervently that you will turn from your course of trying to depict Danny and this forum as "having something against women". For your apology does not indicate any change whatsoever in your course which is clearly in the direction of deliberately leaving the FALSE impression that Brother Danny and other unspecified persons "have something against women". This is wrong and sinful and I do pray that you will see the wisdom of correcting this problem by repenting before God and before all in whose presence you committed this sin so that you will not be condemned for this deliberate and intentional lie."

The only response that you gave to this post was to complain that it was too long!

Then I ask you again in the following Post to deal with your sin against Brother Danny but you RAN AWAY AGAIN!

Here is the post that I wrote to you and you completely ignored:

Nelta: I am glad that you have at least acknowledged that we have said something in response to your patently false accusations against Brother Danny in this forum. I now quote your words with a response:

"Lee, I didn't read all of the posts in response to me. I don't have time. I didn't read yours. What I apologized for was sending something public that should have gone private. If you remember, I said someone wrote me privately and asked what Danny had against women. I said it got me to thinking and then I said to me he was a coward. That is not what I apologized for. The person perceived Danny had something against women. That person had read his posts to three of us (women) where he had been rude and sarcastic. BTW the one who wrote to me was not the person who came on anno. She was giving her opinion and I think she had every right to do so.

I will close this to say I am COMPLETELY through with this subject. What I think about Danny is my business, from now on, as is what he thinks about me. The problem was that he and I both brought public what should have been private."

Nelta

You begin by telling us that you do not have time to read all of the post in response to you: "Lee, I didn't read all of the posts in response to me. I don't have time."

Obviously you only have time to make false accusations but you conveniently have not enough time to offer any proof of you accusations. You clearly accused Brother Danny of "having something against women" and you had absolutely no evidence to support that accusation. You took the time to respond to me but you still have not found the time to give evidence that your accusation against him is true. Give us any quotation from Brother Danny that caused you to accuse him of "having something against women". Your problem in this matter is clearly not a lack of "time" but rather a complete lack of EVIDENCE to prove that your accusation was true. Your accusation is completely false and all who read this forum can see that it is false. Therefore you have deliberately LIED. You have been given every opportunity to correct this completely erroneous idea that cannot be supported by the facts. It is obvious that your intent was to allow your statement that Brother Danny "has something against women" to stand even though you know that it is completely false. A more deliberate effort to tell a LIE and stand by it could not be made by anyone.

Then you tell us what you apologized for with these words:

"What I apologized for was sending something public that should have gone private."

The message that you delivered publicly was that "Danny has something against women". That message was delivered and you have yet to offer even the slightest proof that such was true. You have given absolutely no evidence to justify that FALSE accusation. Therefore you delivered what you knew to be a complete fabrication and a totally false accusation publicly and you think that your only offense was that you made this statement publicly! A lie is an offense to God and man and it does not make the slightest amount of difference whether the lie is told publicly or privately. Unless you can prove that what you said concerning Brother Danny was true then you have LIED and are therefore as a Christian obligated to repent for accusing your brother FALSELY. The fact that you did so publicly only obligates you to repent and correct the LIE publicly. But instead you merely apologize that you accused him publicly deliberately ignoring the fact that you accused him FALSELY and think that you should be clean of this vicious sin of telling a LIE about your brother. A lie should not go at all either privately or publicly. And no matter how it is conveyed a Christian should NEVER be one to carry LIES! You have LIED and you will never be "finished with this matter until you repent and publicly correct this evil that you have committed against your brother!

Then you try to tell us to "remember" what you said and seek to escape responsibility by blaming "other women" for this situation with these words:

"If you remember, I said someone wrote me privately and asked what Danny had against women. I said it got me to thinking and then I said to me he was a coward." Now you clearly wrote about what these women had said because you agreed with them. You wanted the impression to be left that Danny "had something against women". You used them to convey your opinion that Danny had something against women. If we need to we can ask Duane to bring that thread back so that all can see exactly what and how you said these things. I do remember exactly what you said. But I will just ask you to come back and do now what you were not willing to do then and tell us that you do not believe that Brother Danny "has anything against women". Will you do that? You are with the above words attempting to leave the impression that you did not agree with those women who had told you that brother Danny had something against women! When you wrote those words you were in complete agreement with their completely unfounded sentiments and even sought to have us agree and tell you what we thought God thought about brother Danny in this matter. Now if you did not agree with their view that Brother Danny "has something against women" why did you not say that you disagreed with that view? Are you willing now to say that you do not believe that Brother Danny has anything against women? So long as you continue to support your accusation that Brother Danny has something against women you are continuing to support the LIE that cannot be proven by anything that Brother Danny has said in this forum. You also called him a Coward because you agreed so much with the view of these unknown women who seemed to think that he "has something against women." You cannot even offer any evidence to support your accusation that Brother Danny is a Coward! That is just another LIE for which you have shown no compunction of conscience that you should apologize for having said. You have committed a great wrong and an evil in the sight of all and unless you repent you will not find forgiveness for this deliberate sin against God and your Brother. " If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a LIAR: For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, CANNOT love God whom he hath not seen. And this commandment we have from him, that he who loveth God love his brother also" (1 John 4:20,21). One who falsely accuses a brother of anything is lying about his brother and therefore cannot love him. This you have done. Anyone who calls a brother a "coward" falsely is lying about his brother and cannot love him. This you have also done. You therefore do not show Christian love toward your brother in this matter and according to these verses you demonstrate that you therefore do not love God! Repent of this evil sister before it eternally destroys you!

Then you say: "The person perceived Danny had something against women. That person had read his posts to three of us (women) where he had been rude and sarcastic. BTW the one who wrote to me was not the person who came on anno. She was giving her opinion and I think she had every right to do so."

Now with these words you again seek to shift responsibility to these fathom women. You even defend their rights to give their opinion. Of course that have a right to give their opinion. They gave their opinion to you. You agreed with their opinion and delivered it to us and sought to convince us that they were correct. Then when it backfired and everyone completely rejected this as pure absolute false nonsense you wanted to run away. It never occurred to you at that time to quickly tell us that such was the opinion of these "fathom" women who had a right to their opinion even though you also disagreed. No, you agreed with their view then and could not find a way to escape from the onslaught of the negative reaction and tried to run away. Then you decided instead to slide out from your responsibility by pretending to be conciliatory and apologetic by apologizing for something that could not be wrong if your accusations against Brother Danny had been true. Now you try again to escape the truth by pretending that this was not YOUR PERCEPTION but theirs! How absurd can you be in your efforts to tell a LIE and try to avoid responsibility for it! You have lost ALL credibility with reasonable honest people who read this forum.

Then you close by making matters even worse with these words:

"I will close this to say I am COMPLETELY through with this subject. What I think about Danny is my business, from now on, as is what he thinks about me. The problem was that he and I both brought public what should have been private."

Can you tell us exactly what Brother Danny brought Public that should have been kept private? Now you are trying to apologize for Brother Danny when he has done absolutely nothing wrong in this matter! How arrogant can you become? Is there no limit to satan's power over you sister? Now you tell another LIE that Brother Danny has made something public that he should have kept private. You are compounding this egregious sin by continuing to accuse your brother falsely!

No, Nelta, you are not COMPLETELY through with this subject. For you see it is not COMPLETELY within your power to be finished with this matter. First of all I will not just let it drop so easily. Second and most importantly if you do not repent of these LIES you will be judged in the last day for telling them. If you do not repent you will not be finished with this subject until the judgment day! How tragic that you are so unwilling to humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and repent of this obvious and public sin against God and your Brother. No you are sadly mistaken to think that such evil as this will go away simply unnoticed and unpunished by God. This issue will not go away so easily. You cannot sin in this way and refuse defiantly to accept responsibility for it by refusing to acknowledge it and repent of it and escape God's wrath. It will not happen, Nelta. For I perceive that you are without doubt in the "gall of bitterness and the bond of iniquity" and I will continue at every opportunity to URGE you to repent of this evil behavior. This is not just a matter of excessive or emotional debate rhetoric. This is a matter of your FALSELY accusing a Brother in Christ and therefore it is deliberately LYING. This is a blatant and public sin that must be repented of if you seek the mercy and grace that comes from our blessed Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Your soul is at stake, sister, and I will not just sit by and neglect to do all that is within my power to remind you of your dire need for REPENTANCE! Are you just too PROUD to repent?"

You read that post Nelta and you have yet to do anything about it.

I do pray fervently for you sister Nelta. This behavior is not characteristic of you. I pray that you will turn from your evil intentions of depicting Brother Danny as one who has something against women when you KNOW that such is clearly NOT TRUE."

Again I call upon you to repent of these things, Nelta.

Your Brother in Christ,

E. Lee Saffold

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2000

Lee,

You said...

"But by "playing the gender card" as you have done in your completely FALSE and UNSUBSTANTIATED charge against Brother Danny has left this innocent "bystander" with a completely false impression of both Danny and this forum"

I have been accused of being a racist. Didn't hear any word of protest re: that.

Why don't you leave Nelta alone.

-- Anonymous, February 24, 2000

Mark:

The false doctrine of "Anglo-Isrealism" is a "racist" doctrine. If you had been charged falsely of being a racist I would have registered my protest against such a charge. However, anyone who advocates a doctrine, such as your "Anglo-Israelism", which is extremely racist in its nature is a racist whether he perceives himself as such or not. In your case, therefore there is justification to the charge of racism against you and your false Anglo-Israel doctrine.

I do not leave Nelta alone for the same reason that I do not leave you alone. She has lied and is teaching false doctrine as well. Anyone that does such things should not expect to be "left alone" to freely teach their lies without anyone contending with them. Therefore I will not leave any false teacher or deliberate liars alone in any place,including this forum.

You have something in common with Nelta, however. Neither of you even attempt to answer the questions that have been put to you concerning your false doctrines. You have still completely failed to make any attempt to answer my post which I now quote for all to see. You have simply moved to another thread thinking that you will be able to escape the HARD questions that you have been asked and cannot answer. That tactic will not work for you or Nelta, or any other false teacher that enters this forum.

I now ask you again to answer this post which you have failed to answer:

"Mark:

First, on Feb. 15 2000 you say: "If you are interested in understanding Prophecy re: Judah and Israel, and the Jews you must seperate the them. If you cross them with each other your outcome will be wrong."

Then, on Feb. 19, 2000 you question, as if you had never said such a thing, where you said it with these words:

"Where did I say what you said?"

And in the same post where you try to cast doubt on whether you had said such words you actually repeat them again.

Now in you post dated February 20th, 2000 you say it again with these words:

"I'll say it again! "If you are interested in understanding Prophecy re: Judah and Israel, and the Jews you must seperate the them. If you cross them with each other your outcome will be wrong."

So there is no question that you are in direct conflict with the very word of God in Ezekiel 37:15-22 where God Joined Israel and Judah together to draw a conclusion that they would be one nation. He "crossed them and made them one in his hand and drew the conclusion that they would be one nation. You say that if they are ever "crossed" the conclusion would be WRONG. But God crossed them in Ezekiel's hand, which is the very thing you say that will cause the outcome to be wrong. Therefore you are saying that God's outcome in Ezekiel 37:15-22 must be WRONG! You continue to ignore this fact because it scares you. For it completely destroys your theory that we can never combine Israel and Judah without reaching the wrong conclusion about them. You have stated this false doctrine now three times but you have not even once attempted to deal with Ezekiel 37:15-22. It does not matter, Mark, how many times you ASSERT something to be true. It only counts when you PROVE with evidence that it is true.

Now why don't you come in here and give us evidence from the WORD OF GOD that shows that "If you are interested in understanding prophecy re: Judah and Israel and the Jews you MUST separate them. If you cross them with each other your outcome will be wrong?"

Now God, in Ezekiel 37:15-22 clearly crossed them with each other and reached the conclusion that they would never be separated again! "And I WILL MAKE THEM ONE NATION in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be NO MORE TWO NATIONS, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all." Ezekiel 37:21-22.

GOD said, "neither shall they be DIVIDED INTO TWO KINGDOMS ANY MORE AT ALL." But YOU come in here trying to tell us that they MUST be kept SEPARATE! God said, "NEITHER SHALL THEY BE DIVIDED ANY MORE." But Mark says, "YOU MUST SEPARATE THEM". Now our readers can decide for themselves. Do we accept God's conclusion, "neither shall they be divided ANY MORE" or Marks diametrically opposed conclusion to God's which requires that they "MUST BE KEPT SEPARATE"? I will accept God's conclusion and therefore I must reject Mark's conclusion about this matter.

Then, after telling us that we must keep "Israel and Judah separate" you tell us:

"If you would take the time and read what God has said re: Judah and Israel then you would find that God said that HE SEPERATED JUDAH AND ISRAEL. That is God's word." But Ezekiel 37:15-22 shows that he Joined them together never to be separated again. Even you admit this with your following words:

"God also said that HE WOULD JOIN THEM TOGETHER. If you read the Book of Revelations the Bride of Christ is described. (Rev 21:12 KJV) "And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:" JUDAH included."

Then you follow this statement with these words:

"Israel was Seperated from Judah. It is that simple."

Now, Mark, MAKE UP YOUR MIND. Are they to be "KEPT SEPARATE" as you have been telling us or are the JOINED TOGETHER as you have admitted with your above quotation.

Mark, it does appear that Ezekiel 37:15-22 has you stunned, staggering, and stammering! For now you cannot even make up your mind whether or not Israel and Judah should be "Joined" together or "kept separate".

Then you try to leave the impression that you are trying to correct those who believe that the Jews are God's chosen people today by teaching that Christians are God's chosen one's. But the truth is that you are claiming that "Great Britain" is Israel. Therefore "Great Britain", according to Mark, is the chosen people of God.

Now I believe with all of my heart that CHRISTIANS are God's chosen People. For such is the teaching of 2Peter 2:9. But Mark is trying to teach that the British are God's chosen people and no one else. He claims that no Jews can be God's people. Yet he pretends to teach that Christians are the chosen of God and that therefore no Jews can be among the chosen ones. Any Jewish person, who has become a Christian in obedience to the gospel of Christ, is one of God's chosen people even if he is not British. Even if he is not Anglo-Saxon by race. In fact, Christ died for all men! (Romans 5:18). He did not die for any one nation over others.

" And they sang a new song saying, worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of EVERY TRIBE, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE AND NATION and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priest; and they reign upon the earth." (Revelation 5: 9,10).

Why don't you come back in here, Mark, and tell us that you accept the fact that since Christians are the chosen of God (2 Peter 2:9) and some Jews have become Christians (Acts 2:35-47; Acts 22:16) that there are Jews among those who are God's chosen. For the Gospel is the Power of God unto salvation to THE JEW FIRST and also to the Greek." (Romans 1:16).

Yes, Mark, there is no doubt that your false doctrine of "Anglo-Israelism" is false to it's very core and you are completely unable to deal with the fact that Ezekiel 37:15-22 completely refutes your false claims.

For Christ and His Kingdom,

E. Lee Saffold"

I have asked you to deal with this matter of Ezekiel 37:15-22 several times now another thread. You have still failed to do so. You false "Anglo-Israel" hogwash is just that. It is pure nonsense and completely in conflict with the teaching of God's eternal word.

I have no doubt that when strongly challenged false teachers feel a need for an "alliance" with other false teachers. I do not think, however, that you will find a very strong or effective ally in Nelta, who also runs and hides from answering and dealing with the hard questions concerning her lies. You, Mark, are no different. But two false teachers running from the truth can hardly be of much help to each other.

For Christ and His Kingdom,

E. Lee Saffold

-- Anonymous, February 24, 2000

According to the dictionary, racism is "The belief ... that a particular race is superior to others." Pretty much sums up British- Israelism.

-- Anonymous, February 24, 2000