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Tuổi thơ của ti đi qua với những cuốn tiểu thuyết như" X-30 ph lưới" " Những chiến sĩ biệt động Si gn" của MB xuất bản, " Ngươ thứ 41" " Ma xun trn sng Ode" " Thanh gươm v l chắn" " Timua v đồng đội" . Trẻ con choai choai đứa no đọc cũng thch v mơ ước được lm chiến sĩ tnh bo, biệt động thnh , oai hng lắm. C nghĩa l bọn tớ được gio dục v được hưởng một nền văn ho XHCN khc hẳn cc bc VNCH. V vậy năm 1982, lần đầu tin vo Sign, tớ m ngay tới Sứ qun Mỹ đầu tin xem n ra sao, c đng như trong trưyện bị đnh tơi tả v Biệt động Sign khng, nh hng Mỹ cảnh trn sng Si gn, Hotel Caravelle, Cu lạc bộ khng qun Mỹ st cạnh Continental hotel v Nh ht lớn. Tớ thấy những nơi đ cn nguyn vết tch bộc ph , mn Claymo. Sau đ d hỏi xem lm thế no để gắp những người tham gia trận đnh m khng được. Bởi tnh t m, thch tm hiểu về lịch sử m. Đến by giờ vẫn vậy. Nhn tiện c bc no đ ni về khủng bố. VC mun đọc những bo ch, bi viết, ảnh phng sự của VNCH thời đ, để xem thực sự n l ci g. C ai c ti liều th chia sẻ cng với. Hoặc khong co th cứ viết bi vo đy xem thế no. Chửi tớ cũng nghe được :-)))Great thanks
-- Anh CTHN c cn rữ tai lieu gi khong thi post len (wilson_beng@yah.com), December 13, 2004
Đi tm v đọc quyển "Dải Khăn S Cho Huế" của Nh Ca thi biết ngay. Ở Đu c ??? C thể vo lục lọi ở Thuquanvietnam.com th c thể được đấy.
-- (VodanhDC@chetchaCS.com), December 13, 2004.
Sach bao VNCH boc phet cung khong khac gi sach cua CS. Ngay chuyen Hoang Sa 1974 cung boc phet. Mai gan day ong Le Van Thu (cuu trung ta Hai Quan VNCH tham gia tran Hoang Sa) moi len tieng phu nhan truyen thuyet do. Ba muoi nam, hang tram con nguoi tham gia tran danh do o nuoc ngoai ma khong ai danh noi ra su that thi su liem si con dau. O trong nuoc bi CS don ep da danh. O mot nuoc tu do ma che day su that thi la hen ha.Tiec la anh VC chua duoc doc sach "Dua con cau tu" cua ong NCK hay quyen sach cua tuong VNCH Lam Quang Thi. Anh doc thi thay cai chu TOI trong sach do to nhu the nao. Ho viet sach khong he nhac toi mot nguoi linh nao cua ho. Anh doc sach cua Tuong VC nhu Nguyen Huu An, Hoang Cam thi anh thay ho nhac toi nhung Dam Trung Nguy (gio la trung tuong ve huu), Ta Van Luat (hy sinh roi) va nhieu nguoi khac. Nhung nguoi linh da theo ho di cung nam thang. Co nguoi nga xuong, co nguoi con. Nhung tinh cam cua tuong VC voi linh duoc the hien rat ro rang.
Dam tuong lanh VNCH thieu tinh cam voi ngay nhung nguoi linh cua ho. Dam bac ki di cu thi lai cang thieu tinh cam voi noi ho sinh ra (mien bac). Vay anh tu hoi la ho lam sao co tinh cam voi ai duoc nua. Cai dam nay dem ban bo het di cho roi.
-- Tuong Dao Ngu (TuongDaoNguVNCH@yahoo.com), December 13, 2004.
The Tet Offensive 1968
Early in 1968 the Communists launched a major offensive to coincide with the traditional Vietnamese New Year celebrations (29 to 31 January). It was a time of an agreed cease-fire. NVA/VC suicide troops struck in Sai Gon, Hue was temporarily occupied, news media reported immense damage in the South and 19 suicide sappers broke into the compound of the American Embassy. They were all killed. In all 80 different cities, towns or military bases were attacked, more or less simultaneously. The people of the South refused to rally to the cause as the NVA leaders had hoped and the whole thing was a military disaster. NVA General Giap was devastated. He felt that the gamble was a total waste. And then Walter Cronkite, America's most respected journalist at that time, suggested that America wasn't winning the war. It was inaccurate, based on a 30 second TV grab and was not much better than stupid as the figures will show. However it created the first significant crack in President Johnson's belief that he could win both the war and re-election. As it turned out he did neither. Growing reluctance in America to support a war we weren't winning, combined with Johnson's new found reticence and a fresh surge of hope in the leadership of North Viet Nam that these things bought on meant that the beginning of the end had been reached. During Tet, the Australian contingent at Nui Dat repulsed a Viet Cong attack on targets around Ba Ria, the provincial capital, with few casualties. Losses during Tet Offensive Country/Force Killed Wounded Missing US, Korea, Australia 1,536 7,764 11 South Viet Nam 2,788 8,299 587 North Viet Nam and Viet Cong 45,000 not known not known Civilian 14,000 24,000 630,000 homeless Hanoi was perfectly aware of the growing US peace movement and of the deep divisions the war was causing in American society What Giap needed was a body-blow that would break Washington's will to carry on and at the same time would undermine the growing legitimacy of the Saigon Government once and for all. In one sense, time was not on Giap's side. While Hanoi was sure that the Americans would tire of the war as the French had before them, the longer it took, the stronger the Saigon Government might become. Another year or so of American involvement could seriously damage the NLF and leave the ARVN capable of dealing with its enemies on its own. Giap opted for a quick and decisive victory that would be well in time for the 1968 US Presidential campaign. Giap prepared a bold thrust on two fronts. With memories of the victory at Dien Bien Phu still in his mind, he planned an attack on the US Marines' firebase at Khe Sanh. At the same time the NVA and the NLF planned coordinated attacks on virtually all South Vietnam's major cities and provincial capitals. If the Americans opted to defend Khe Sanh, they would find themselves stretched to the limit when battles erupted elsewhere throughout the South. Forced to defend themselves everywhere at once, the U~ARVN forces would suffer a multitude of small to major defeats which would add up to an overall disaster Khe Sanh would distract the attention of the US commanders while the NVA/VC was preparing for D-day in South Vietnam's cities but, when this full offensive was at its height, it was unlikely that the over-stretched American forces would be able to keep the base from being overrun and Giap would have repeated his triumph of fourteen years before. It's highly doubtful that the NVA/VC expected to hold all or even some of the cities and towns they attacked, but the NLF apparently did expect large sections of the urban populace to rise up in revolt With a few exceptions, this didn't happen. South Vietnam's city dwellers were generally indifferent to both the NLF and the Saigon Government but the VC clearly expected more support than it actually got. The object of attacking the cities was not so much to win in a single blow as it was to inflict a series of humiliating defeats on the Americans and to destroy the authority of the Saigon Government. When the US/ARVN forces finally drove the NVA/VC back into the jungle, there would be left behind a wasteland of rubble, refugees, and simmering discontent. Stung by their defeats, the Americans would lose heart for the war and what was left of the Saigon Government would be forced to reach an agreement with the NLF and Hanoi which - after a time - would simply take over in the South. This offensive would begin in January 1968 at the time of the Vietnamese Tet (New Year) holidays. The first attack on Khe Sanh began shortly before dawn on January 21st, when the NVA attempted to cross the river running past the base. It was beaten back but followed by an artillery barrage which damaged the runway, blew up the main ammunition stores, and damaged a few aircraft. Secondary attacks were launched against the Special Forces' defenses at Lang Vel and against the Marines dug-in on the hills surrounding Khe Sanh but these attacks were aimed more attesting the defenses than anything else. The next day, helicopters and light cargo aircraft flew in virtually every few minutes replacing lost ammunition but the weather began turning worse. While the world was watching the drama unfolding at Khe Sanh, however, NVA and VC regulars were also drifting into Saigon, Hue, and most of South Vietnam's cities. They came in twos and threes, disguised as refugees, peasants, workers, and ARVN soldiers on holiday leave. In Saigon, roughly the equivalent of five battalions of NVA/VC gradually infiltrated the city without anyone informing or any of the countless security police taking undue notice. Weapons came separately in flower carts, jury-rigged coffins, and trucks apparently filled with vegetables and rice. There was also a VC network in Saigon and the other major cities which had long stockpiled stores of arms and ammunition drawn from hit-and-run raids or bought openly on the black-market. It was also no secret that VC drifted in and out of the cities to see relatives and on general leave from their units. Viet Cong who were captured during the pre Tet build up were mistaken for regular holiday-makers or deserters. In the general pattern of the New Year merry-makers, the VC's secret army of infiltrators went completely unnoticed. In the early morning hours of January 31st, the first day of the Vietnamese New Year, NLF/NVA troops and commandos attacked virtually every major town and city in South Vietnam as well as most of the important American bases and airfields. There were some earlier attacks around Pleiku, Quang Nam, and Darlac but these were largely misinterpreted as the enemy's main thrust by those who were expecting some activity during Tet Almost everywhere the attacks came as a total surprise. Vast areas of Saigon and Hue suddenly found themselves "liberated" and parades of gun-waving NVA/VC marched through the streets proclaiming the revolution while their grimmer-minded comrades rounded up prepared lists of collaborators and government sympathizers for show trials and quick executions. In Saigon, nineteen VC commandos blew their way through the outer walls of the US Embassy and overran the five MP's on duty in the early hours of that morning. Two MP's were killed immediately as the action-team tried to blast their way through the main Embassy doors with anti-tank rockets. They failed and found themselves pinned-down by the Marine guards who kept the VC in an intense firefight until a relief force of US lO1st Airborne landed by helicopter. By mid-morning, the battle had turned. All nineteen VC were killed, their bodies scattered around the Embassy courtyard. Five Americans and two Vietnamese civilians were among the other dead. The commandos had been dressed in civilian clothing and had rolled-up to the Embassy in an ancient truck. The security of the Embassy was not in serious danger after the first few minutes and the damage was slight but this attack on 'American soil" captured the imagination of the media and the battle became symbolic of the Tet Offensive throughout the world. When the fighting at Tan Son Nhut was over, twenty-three Americans were dead, eighty-five were wounded and up to fifteen aircraft had suffered serious damage. Two NVA/VC battalions attacked the US air- base at Bien Hoa and crippled over twenty aircraft at a cost of nearly 170 casualties. Further fighting at Bien Hoa during the Tet offensive would take the NVA/VC death total in Saigon to nearly 1200. The fighting within Saigon itself was pretty much over by February 5th but it carried on in Cholon until the last week of the month. Cholon was strafed, bombed, and shelled but the NVA/VC held on and even mounted sporadic counter-offensives against US/ARVN positions within the city and against Tan Son Nhut airport. B-52 strikes against communist positions outside Saigon came within a few miles of the city When the NVA/VC were finally driven out of Saigon's suburbs, they retreated into the surrounding government villages and fought there. US and ARVN artillery and strike-aircraft bombed and shelled these supposedly pacified villages before troops moved in to reoccupy them. The NVA/VC repeated this tactic again and again in a clear effort to make the Saigon Government destroy their own fortified villages and, by doing so, further alienate the rural population. A month after the offensive began, US estimates put the number of civilian dead at some 15,000 and the number of new refugees at anything up to two million and still the battles went on. Elsewhere in South Vietnam, the success of the Tet offensive was erratic. Many of the attacks on the provincial cities and US bases were easily beaten back within the first minutes or hours, but others involved bitter fighting. In the resort city of Dalat, the ARVN put up a spirited defense of the Vietnamese Military Academy against a determined VC battalion. Fighting raged over the Pasteur Institute - which changed hands several times-and the VC dug themselves in the central market Fighting in Dalat went on until mid- February and left over 200 VC dead. After Hue was finally recaptured at the end of February South Vietnamese officials sifting through the rubble found mass graves with over 1200 corpses and-sometime later-other mass burials in the provincial area. The total number of bodies unearthed came to around 2500 but the number of civilians estimated as missing after the Hue battle was nearly 6000. Many of the victims found were Catholics who sought sanctuary in a church but were taken out and later shot Others were apparently being marched off for political "re- education" but were shot when American or ARVN units came too close. The mass graves within Hue itself were largely of those who had been picked up and executed for various "enemy of the people" offenses. There is some doubt that the NVA/VC had planned all these executions beforehand but unquestionably it was the largest communist purge of the war. Giap's ambition to win a massive victory against the Americans was thwarted by massive aerial bombardments of NVA positions. B-52's and strike aircraft dropped their loads with pin-point accuracy within a few hundred feet of Khe Sanh's perimeter. During the course of the battle, tons of bombs and napalm were dropped around Khe Sanh. The NVA launched further attacks on February 17th, 18th, and 29th but massed artillery and air-strikes broke the first up fairly easily while the second involved heavy fighting. In early April, relief forces reached the base. A 1st Cavalry helicopter assault force landed near Khe Sanh as American and ARVN forces hit NVA positions along Rout#9. Khe Sanh was relieved on April 6th and, four days later, Lang Vei was reccu- pied. Fighting continued around Khe Sanh for a time but Giap had long since given up any hope of overrunning the base.Giap had been frustrated at Khe Sanh and defeated in South Vietnam's cities. NVA/VC dead totaled some 45,000 anc the number of prisoners nearly 7000.
But the shockwave of the battle finished Johnson's willingness to carry on. Westmoreland was pressuring Washington for 206,000 troops to carry on the campaign in the South and to make a limited invasion of North Vietnam just above the DMZ. As the battle for Hue died out, Johnson asked Clark Clifford (who had recently replaced a disillusioned McNamara as Secretary of Defense) to find ways and means of meeting Westmoreland's request. Clifford and an advisor group looked at the war to date and among others, consulted CIA Director Richard Helms who presented the Agency's gloomy forecasts in great detail. On March 4th Clifford told Johnson that the war was far from won and that more men would make little difference. Johnson then turned to his chief group of informal advisors (which included among others, Generals Omar Bradley, Matthew Ridgway, and Maxwell Taylor; Cyrus Vance, Dean Acheson, and Henry Cabot Lodge). Johnson soon found that they too, like Clifford, had turned against the war. According to Thomas Powers, Johnson's "wise old men" had been told that recent CIA studies showed that the pacification programme was failing in forty of South Vietnam's forty-four provinces and that the NLF's manpower was actually twice the number that had been estimated previously. Not only had Tet shown that the optimism of the previous year had been an illusion but it now seemed that the enemy was far stronger than anybody had thought and that the long efforts to win Vietnamese "hearts and minds" had largely been a disaster. Johnson's dilemma was complete. He couldn't meet the generals' manpower requests without either depleting Europe of American troops- which was unacceptable- or without calling up the active reserves which would have been a political disaster His most senior advisors had turned against the war and Johnson took another briefing from the CIA analyst whose gloomy reports had soured some of his most hawkish counselors. A few days after this briefing, Johnson went on TV to announce a bombing halt of the North and America's willingness to meet with the North Vietnamese to seek a peace settlement. Johnson then said that he was not a candidate for reelection under any circumstances and would spend the rest of his term in a search for peace in Indochina. One of those present at the special CIA briefing which convinced Johnson that a change of course was inevitable was General Creighton Abrams, Westmoreland's deputy commander. Shortly after Johnson's turnabout, Abrams replaced Westmoreland as head of US forces in Vietnam. Vietnamization is usually credited to Nixon but it began in the wake of the Tet Offensive and Johnson's turnabout. Giap's gamble had another side effect. When the Tet Offensive began, many US officials believed that the NLF had offered the Americans a golden opportunity by fighting a pitched battle where it could be defeated in open combat. In effect, the NLF was "leading with its chin" and the massive losses it suffered bear this out The VC was not broken by the Tet Offensive but it was severely crippled by it and, from then on, the North took on the main burden of the war. Further fighting in 1968 and the increasing activity of the Phoenix Program further decimated the NLF's ranks and the role of the North grew even larger. The northern and southern parts of Vietnam had ancient cultural and social differences and while the communist cadres at the center of the NLF had managed largely to suppress these natural antagonisms, there still were basic differences in goals and approach. The NLF had gone into the Tet Offensive in the hope of giving a death-blow to the Saigon Government and, if it couldn't capture power directly, it could at least gain a coalition leading to ultimate authority. The NLF's dream vanished in the rubble of South Vietnam's cities and it would be Hanoi that conquered Saigon. Partly from "The Vietnam Experience Nineteen Sixty-Eight"
-- (Anh_Tm@Phu Cao Su.Com), December 14, 2004.
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-- Where is The Dog Nha` nuo+'c :))))) come and Gau gau :))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), December 15, 2004.
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-- (tosu_cs@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
CỘNG SẢN LÀ BÈ LŨ KHỦNG BỐ CƯỚP CUẢ GIẾT NGƯỜI, TÀN PHÁ ĐẤT NƯỚC, TIÊU DIỆT SỨC SỐNG DÂN TỘC.
-- (tosu_cs@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
CTHN nếu không có thì giờ post thì zip lại, nguyên con ISO format cũng được, upload lên một FTP nào đó hoặc email thẳng cho tôi. Tôi sẽ bỏ thì giờ ra post dùm cho. Nếu muốn dùng FTP, tôi sẽ dành chổ trong cái server ở nhà và mở cửa cho bạn vô. It's up to you.
-- Toàn Dân Bỏ 4 (CSonSale@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
ANh Hoi nach copy cho xin 1 dia di!!!!!!!! Hoac ban cung okie doie lien, o VN DVD gia 15000 VND/cai. Tra anh han 1USD/cai :-)))
-- Viet Cuong (wilson_beng@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
***Okie, let me find out those CDs , lot of Pix , all kind of Psycho Warfare, HCM, etc ..... some from Book/VN-War Doc, some from Media Doc
I collect them myself, why not give it to someone else to have a chance to use them :))))))
-- Hey The Dog Nha` nuoc , U r going to eatshiet soon :)))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), December 15, 2004.
Bỏ4 tui sẽ donate CD và thời gian copy cho tất cả mọi người (friends but vẹm (^_^))
-- Toàn Dân Bỏ 4 (CSonSale@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
Trong vng 1 tuần m khng thấy hnh cũa anh CTHN l tui thiến di anh đ
-- Kẻ Sĩ Bắc H (ke_si_bac_ha@yahoo.com), December 15, 2004.
***Give me times :)))
-- Chibua my adopted son of a Bitch :))) Rn't U The Dog Nha` nuoc so far :))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), December 15, 2004.
***Chibua la` TungDaoNgu :)))))) HAHHAAHAH
Carry ON
-- Intimidate so far , wont work , U dont prove any shit but FUN :))))) (ChuyenTriHOINACH@aol.com), December 15, 2004.
D/m thang chibua. May chui ra bao thang ChuyenTriHoiNach di. Vu cua 2 dua bay lien quan me gi toi tao ma tao lai bi hieu nham.D/m anh ChuyenhTriHoiNach :). Anh bao chibua la thang con trai cua anh ma no biet sua thi anh la giong gi ha.
Co cau noi ma cung lon xon. D/m nha anh.
-- Tuong Dao Ngu (TuongDaoNgu@VNCH.com), December 16, 2004.
Tuong Dao Ngu (TuongDaoNgu@VNCH.com) khng phn biệt được hư vi thực. Chibua ai m dm nhận n l con ? Tuong Dao Ngu (TuongDaoNgu@VNCH.com) l luận dốt nt. Tuong Dao Ngu (TuongDaoNgu@VNCH.com) học hết lớp 5 ?
-- (test@test.test), December 16, 2004.