Islam and The Beheading of an American Civilian

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I have just seen the video of Nick Berg's beheading.

What was most disturbing was the perpetrators shouting "Allah Akbar" or "God is Good" while taking the life of another human being.

What kind of religion celebrates death and torture?

My prayers go out to his family for their loss, and that this war will end quickly.



-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004

Answers

My Prayers as well Rev.Harper. My Prayers too!!

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004

Shows who their "god" really is, doesn't it?

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004

I'm not holding my breath on any apologies extended to the Berg family by those responsible for this heinous act. Afterall, the attention of Iraqi prisoner "torture" at Abu Ghraib appears to be more important in the eyes of the international media, UN and anti- Bush politicos. QED

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004

How were you able to access this video footage? Some faculty that work with don't believe it is accessible. Thanks.

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004

I have my ways...I AM an Internet Geek.......

The file is too large to send via e-mail (8M), and posting it might anger people who could shut down whatever site I put it on.

If you e-mail me privately (and I will only respond to the e-mails I know are correct on this board), I will reply with instructions on getting a copy...

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004



Where is the denunciation of this act from the Islamic clerics if Islam is a religion of peace?

The behavior of these radical Islamic fundamentalist and the behavior of those involved in the torture at Abu Ghraib are demonstrative of the power of satan. According to Bishop Desmond Tutu in GOD HAS A DREAM, we live in moral universe and evil never has the final word. Thank God for that spiritual law. Nevertheless, we must not continue to counter evil with evil less it escalates as in this situation. This beheading was retaliation for the torture at Abu Ghraib. In response to this beheading, shall we as Americans condescend to their level again and committ more heinous acts against humanity?

Jazzman

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2004


What kind of religion celebrates death and torture? -- Rev. John Harper (revjtharper@earthlink.net), May 12, 2004

YOUR KIND DOES! LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU GREEDY OLD MAN THE US TROOPS ARE CHRISTIAN TROOPS, RAPING AND MURDERING THEIR WAY ACROSS ANOTHER INNOCENT NATION. SADAM IS GONE, WHY ARN'T YOU....

Shows who their "god" really is, doesn't it? -- RP (srprice@cox.net), May 12, 2004.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT, POINT THE FINGER YOU PIOUS TURD!! IRAQ HAS NO TAVERNS, NO SEX SHOPS, NO PORNOGRAPHIC MOVIES STREAMING 24/7 THEY HAVE NO DRUG PROBLEM, NO ALCOHOL PROBLEM... AND THEY HAVE NOT INVADED 40 ODD NATIONS IN THE LAST 60 ODD YEARS LIKE YOU SICK HYPOCRITES HAVE!! IF THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU CALL FALSE GODS THEN GET OFF YOUR FAT PIOUS ARSES AND GO OVER AND TELL THEM YOUR VERSION OF THE TRUTH... OH, NO!! WE MIGHT GET PERSECUTED, BETTER TO SEND IN FLEETS OF B52'S AND CARPET BOMB THE PLACE FIRST. THEN WHEN THEIR SCARED OF THEIR OWN SHADOWS WE CAN GO IN AND TURN THEM INTO GOOD LITTLE CHILD MOLESTERS LIKE OURSELVES.. TEACH THEM TO BUILD A CHURCH AND COLLECT LOTS OF MONEY SO THEY CAN LEASE NEW CARS AND HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES FREE AND LIVE RENT FREE [ALL IN THE NAME OF GOD OF COURSE]

How were you able to access this video footage? Some faculty that work with don't believe it is accessible. Thanks. -- Olivia Brewster (oliviabrewster@hotmail.com), May 12, 2004.

OH DEAR, YOU ARE JUST CHAFFING AT THE BIT TO SEE THE BLOOD AND GORE ARNT YOU DEAR OLIVIA, FORGET THE BIBLE VERSE ABOUT TURNING AWAY FROM SUCH THINGS, MUCH BETTER TO SEE THE ""PROOF"" WITH YOUR OWN SICK LITTLE EYES ISN'T NOW, THEN YOU CAN REALLY BAG THE EVIL DARK-SKINNED HOARDS THAT ARE UNRIGHTEOUSLY SITTING ON THE OIL YOU NEED TO FUEL YOUR NEW SUV.

Where is the denunciation of this act from the Islamic clerics if Islam is a religion of peace? -- Jazzman (mrjazzman1@earthlink.net), May 12, 2004.

LIKE YOUR FOREFATHERS WERE WITH THE BRITISH THEY ARE PROBABLY BEARING ARMS TO REPELL THE FILTHY AMERICAN INVADERS THAT ARE HELL BENT ON LOOTING THEIR SOVEREIGN NATION. NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION REMEMBER!! NO REASON TO BE THERE NOW...... EXCEPT ALL THAT OIL??

-- Anonymous, May 13, 2004


Pious Pete, it is clear that you are controlled by Lucifer. You are also a hypocrite as well as a liar.

-- Anonymous, May 14, 2004

Father, in Jesus Name I bind the demons that influence the one called "Pious Pete". I ask that you would put on him an unrelenting conviction of sin, righteousness, and judgement. Let him never find contentment in his present condition, but let his lack of happiness drive him toward you until he finally surrenders and becomes your servant.

I ask this in agreement with your will and in your Name.

Amen

-- Anonymous, May 15, 2004


And while blessing Pious Pete, please guide RP as well. Amen and amen!

-- Anonymous, May 15, 2004


Absolutely! Please guide me Lord.

-- Anonymous, May 15, 2004

Wow, while I do not necessarily support the words of pious pete, I am struck by the logic he employs and the irony he uncovers. Calling him satanic and "binding his demons" does not address the points he makes in his response to the posts.

In his response to Rev. Harper he makes an accurate point. I remember all too well how many churches put up American flags and God Bless America on their sign boards and God bless our troops. And what were our troops doing? They were sent to root out the government of Saddam and to kill them. After all didn't we celebrate the death of his sons? Do we not believe that God is blessing our work even as we drop bombs that do nothing but kill the "guilty" and the innocent. I love this country very much, I love our ideals, our freedoms. But are we not somewhat convicted by pious pete here?

His response to RP also raises a point to ponder, we have used our economic strength and military might to impose our view on the world. And for many conservatives the things banned in Islamic societies would be congruent with their thinking. And how would we respond to carpet bombs? Americans gave birth to terrorism along time ago, for years and years white terrorists dressed in white robes and brandishing bombs, guns and other weapons terrorized black citizens and even lynched and burned them with impunity in front of blazing crosses to foster their own view of society. We did not condone it then we must confront it now.

Olivia he may be right, why would you want to witness such gore?

Finally, the Islamic clerics are behaving no differently than the Christian clerics in this country during the days of slavery, and legalized discrimination. For every one who spoke against it thousands spoke for it by their silence. And America still cannot bring it self to apologize for the evils of slavery so the motto continues don't complain don't explain.

Before we utterly denounce pious pete at least read what he has to say some of it should give us pause.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2004


gives a flying what he says, seriously all he is doing is just randomly yelling and resorting to things 1 person does, do you think the man who got his head cut off raped children, or tortured people; seriously. if they wanted to do an example like that should have found a soldier, not some random civilian trying to help thats like:

hey i've come to help you rebuild your country because we came along and destroyed it;

and the reason that i didnt give my e-mail is because i just randomly passed over this site and decided to write my opinion for no reason...not here to get replies oh ok ill kill you;

also the only reason Iraq doesnt have poor and boos is because their beloved Sadam horded it for himself and killed everyone who had it, that and a culture where women cant even show their stomach isnt going to breed massive countities of porn

but im just 15 so what do i know; oh yeah and asking God to do crap about each other isnt going to do anything. do you think god/ whatever deity you believe in, is going to do anything about an argument, im sure the dude that got his head cut off was thinking all sorts of things to get god to help him.....but in the long run what we are doing now is nothing, far worse actions have been done in the past

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2004


one more thing, the strongest government will always be currupt and greedy pious is just jealous that its not his government that gets this chance

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2004

Harold has a point. There are some things America can fix internally.

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2004


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