ONE MINUTE LEFT!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3350930958&category=41524

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

Answers

u are a complete dumbass, sorry to tell you. Your selling someone elses hard work on EBAY, how low can u go. I hope you die a painful death. One which involves spoons and torches.

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

isn't illegal to sell it?

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

No more "illegal" than fansubbing and downloading it in the first place.

U.S. distributors haven't bought the rights to the Naruto anime, yet, so fansubbers and people who may sell the episodes are pretty much given a pass.

That changes once a U.S. company buys the license to distribute a given anime in this country. THEN, fansubbers, downloaders and sellers of such anime ALL run the risk of running afowl with U.S. authorities... contrary to what many on this message forum would have you believe, or would like to believe themselves. At that point, it's the same situation we have with music companies and the downloading/trading of mp3s. You can do it, but do so at your own risk.

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

ASSHOLE NARUTO hasn't been liscened yet only the manga stupid ass but the illegal part of sellin fansub is you shouldn't buy them. NARUTO is free for right now just get the eps of Japan b4 stupid American fuck up the original version so hurry and download all the NARUTO EPS. HELL YEA NARUTO

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

just dont buy from him bid for others which are relatively cheap, like this one :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=3352204590&category=41524

kekekkekekeke, die you mr jones

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

Sorry... too late. You guys missed your chance. It's already been sold to... well, I won't get them in trouble with you guys by stating their name. Wouldn't want to sully their reputation from having BOUGHT illegal anime instead of just TAKING it, like the rest of you noble souls. :)

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

Dear Mr. Jones, if you read the commencing of each and a every Fansub, it very clearly states,'not for sale, or rent', how the fuck can you not comply with this. 'Oh, I charge for my services of dubbing, and the burnt cd, and the case, hyuk hyuk'. Shit, if an american company has to buy-the rights to sell, motherfucker, what the fuck do you think you need to do 'legally'??. Oh, and what the fuck, if you have it, and I ask you to give me an episode through AIM, or MSN messenger, your gonna charge me?, for what, your 'service' of moving your shitty fingers over the keyboard?. Or perhaps burning it, and mailing it to me?, where the fuck does it start and end, dumb ass. A duhhhhhhhh. 'hyuk' 'hyuk'. Yeah, dumb shit. Because your Mr. Jones, this means, you're special dumb fuck?. The translators, and encoders, are the ones who could sell, but they don't, and if they do, they don't advertise it like a bunch of Imbeciles. Go fuck yourself, of all places to advertise, I can't fucking believe this, why the fuck, would anybody here buy shit from you, when we all band together to give each other the goods, are you insulting us?, 'these dumb fucks aren't smart like me, and can't download, hyuk hyuk, or shit, I think money is in order for me, me, I'm Mr. Jones.' Fucking Asshole. Shit. Mr.Jones, What the fuck is the Mr. for,what are you a pedophile, Mr.Jones?. Your acts are ilegal, and I'm gonna report this to E-Bay, dumb fuck, if you don't fuckn make like a ghost. Mr. Jones. Oh, and by the way, this is your real e-mail. Be weary. This shit is gonna get out, and the Japanese are gonna start breathing down our throats, and there won't be anymore FANSUBS PERIOD!. THINK DUMBFUCK, THINK.

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

First of, I can understand, your inteligence,isn't very high(AOL??). Let me explain to you, something, that you will find very enlightening. First of, Mr. Jones,(shit, what a crappy alias), the Animation Production Studios, allies with Fansubbers. Here, in Los Angeles, we have the UCLA Anime Club. And we get open arms and a big smile, from the Japanese Animation Production companies. Why?, they don't care if we are, somehow able encode there episodes, and distribute them. Because it is promotion. AS LONG AS THERE IS NO SELLING OF THE ANIMATION, THE ANIMATION PRODUCTION COMPANIES WELCOME FANSUBBING, AND IN MANY CASES SUPPORT IT, AND CONTRIBUTE TO IT. AT UCLA FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A TIGHT NITCH BETWEEN ANIMATION PRODUCTION COMPANIES AND THE CLUB. WHY?, BECAUSE, THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL IDEA IS THAT THE ANIMATION WILL BECOME POPULAR TO A CERTAIN POINT, IN WHICH, A RESPECTABLE, REPUTABLE, DISTRIBUTOR, WILL COME ALONG AND PURCHASE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS. If we fansubbers betray this mechanism, and start the selling, and destroying the trust, given to us, by the Japanese Animation Industry, were fucked. The'll comlain, and fansubbing will most certainly be hurt, which, most probably will hurt the underground distribution of Japanese Fansubs, in the long run. SO DON'T DO THIS SHIT. FUCK I COULD DO WHAT YOUR DOING, I HAVE ALL THE EPISODES, BUT I DON'T CAUSE IT AIN'T COOL. Peace out.Don't betray the trust, and don't fuck with the underground establishment, and no, the people that copy the episodes of TV, are not doing anything illegal, just like your not doing anything illegal, if you tape your favorite show, with a pre- programmed VCR. I REPEAT, WHAT THE ENCODERS DO, AND THE TRANSLATORS DO IS NOT ILLEGAL, YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE COMMITTING A CRIME. I REPEAT, WHAT THE ENCODERS DO, AND THE TRANSLATORS DO IS NOT ILLEGAL, YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE COMMITTING A CRIME. I REPEAT, WHAT THE ENCODERS DO, AND THE TRANSLATORS DO IS NOT ILLEGAL, YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE COMMITTING A CRIME. bE WEll AND bE wEArY.

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

I totaly agree with you "hello@aol.com" but you're talking with a complete dickhead so it useless to try to stop him. I suggest you contact ebay about his naruto sale (because he can't sell that on ebay btw) and the sub-makers ANBU_AonE, Saiyaman & TW so they take actions against him. If many of us complain about him they'll make a move for sure.

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

I agree!!

If ANBU or Saiyaman or any other subber grout complains directly to ebay (of course I'll write to ebay too) this stupid, idiotic, moron M. Jones should be stopped selling others work!!!

I'm very greatful for all the fansubbers 'cause of them we can watch great anime other wise we would have to wait years and years for them to get licenced!!!

So M. Fucking Jones do not use others work and put them in danger of stopping the subs!!!!

Oh BTW GO TO HELL M. JONES!!!

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

LOL... you guys are funny! :) Such intelligent responses. All to argue that trafficking in pirated material from Japan over the internet (often already licensed here in the U.S.) is somehow legal, while offering that same material to people willing to buy it, isn't.

The chances that Japanese animation companies are going to do anything about anyone who distributes their stuff (whether fansubbers or sellers) but doesn't affect their profits is ZERO. The episodes that I'm selling aren't offered in Asia (where Naruto is currently available), so I'm not hurting them one bit. I AM, however, helping them by increasing access to Naruto to people who might otherwise never be able to view this anime, but would like to.

Likewise, until a U.S. company picks up the rights to the show, I'm not dipping into anyone's profits over here, either... or infringing on anyone's copyright in this country. Fansubbers certainly have no rights regarding the shows they subtitle. They're simply tolerated and used to spread awareness of anime... until someone from this country DOES purchase the rights. Then both the fansubbers AND the sellers can get into hot water for infringing on someone else's trademarked property and hurting their business.

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

ever heard of anything called morals and ethics?

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2003

seems not. its people like m.jones that ttry to kill the anime community and the great jobs and hours of hard work the fansubbers put in for nothing in return.

dont like m.jones anymore...

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2003

That's okay. I still like you. :)

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2003