I wish that Nintendo would re-realease all of the Final Fantasy games in a bundle for the Gamecube or GBA! Of course, you probably couldn't fit all of them on one bundle, so put the old ones in a GBA bundle, and the 3D ones (ones that were for PSX) on the gamecube! You have to admit, when it comes to a *quality* game, Nintendo has NO competition. PS2 doesn't even compare to the Gamecube, and it never will. Never. I don't care what you Playstation die-hard fans say, Sony will never beat Nintendo.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

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dude Sony beats nintendo anyday and besides u proably won't see nintendo release all the playstation games for gamecube becaue there from squaresoft and they only work for playstation at the moment.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Playstation has never been better than Nintendo. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it. And actually, Squaresoft is going to be working for Nintendo sometime in the near future.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

i think that sony baught the rights to all the final fantasies from nintendo.. Thats why there was final fantasy antholigies and shit..

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

man yoou obsiouly don' remeber back in 96 when playstation was the best system and beat nintendo 64, besides i like nintendo but the gamecube sucks in my opinion they've ruined so good titles mario sunshine piece of crap, windwaker i thought that was a real big screw from nintendo, pikman my god, i like SMBM though. nintendo use to be the best but now they suck.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Well, Sony IS currently beating Nintendo FYI because everyone knows it's the games that counts no matter how powerful a system is. PS2 has the most games and the most popularity in Japan and that's what counts. I love Nintendo and all but it might become a Sega in the near future (maybe except for handheld...until the PSP arrives!!). Gamecube's got nothing, FF chronicles? gimme a break, looks kinda kiddie to me. Plus, Square Enix is re-releasing Front Mission, Seiken Densetsu 3 (i luv that game) and Final Fantasy 3, all for PS One. So, that means Sony is the only system that has all the (true) Final Fantasy games now. for proof of the rereleases check this site if you think i'm lying http://www.the-magicbox.com/game080603b.htm

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

yeah, I was alive in the 96 era, i remember what it was like. Let me give you the lowdown. The Playstation and Nintendo 64 were pretty evenly matched. The best game out was FF7 on the PSX side, annd Ocarina of Time on the N64 side. Both were awesome games, each with their own unique aspects. Each had deep plots, but FF7 had something missing that OoT had. The unique orchestration of the story that pulled you into the game, and left you yearning for the next chapter. FF7 was close, but OoT was better.

I'm TIRED of people talking shit about graphics. Have you ever played Wind Waker? It's the best game I have ever played, better than any FF game. You guys like anime, ne? Wind Waker is like playing through an anime. Yeah, I know. Wind Waker's graphics aren't as anime-esque as one might think. Actually, FF games' graphics look more like anime, but the game doesn't feel like an anime like Wind Waker does. You guys think that the only good graphics are ones that convey hardcore action. Only the sharpest graphics are worth looking at. Well, it aint true. No one has any right to dis a game that they haven't played. Don't get me wrong, PS2 is an awesome system as well, it's just that gamecube houses the *truly* quality games.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

I've got both a GC and PS2 and while the PS2 is much better title- wise, the GC has better graphics. As far as Final Fantasy going to the Playstation all those years ago, it was this. The head of Square and the head of Nintendo Japan were close like brothers, then they had some kind of falling out with each other and square took their game elsewhere.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

the reasons why square stopped producing mostly for other formats was cos sony owned over 20% of their stock, and so had a big say in what went on, then they proceeded to buy the rights for some games.

now however, square is working with nintendo again - and in a couple of weeks the resulkt of their work will come out - a new ff for cube with 4 player co-op. personally i hope the multiplayer follows the kind that was found in secret of mana, cos that was a quality co-op rpg.

also, wind waker was great but short, so they added 2 games for free. super mario sunshine was damn playable, and it wasnt even the proper gamecube mario, so for not having much expected of it it did a damn good job. the cube has huge potential, just that the n64 lowered the trust 3rd party producers had in nintendo, so its gonna take a while to regain that.

also, the ps2 isnt that powerful - its processor is out of date now compared to its rivals, it doesnt have enough ram to actually make full use of the processor and its still the most expensive console on the market. xbox is good, and i think will never die cos they're backed by microsoft - but theyre games havent really surpassed the gamecube in graphics, and they only really have one outstanding game - halo. later this year we'll see how it does with the release of games like doom 3 and halo 2.

also, dont forget there have been over 10 final fantasy games on nintendo consoles - original releases. the ps's totals up to 4 at the moment, or 5 if u want x-2

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Finally, an intelligent person has replied to my topic. And you're totally right, most of the FF games are original to Nintendo. And to whoever said that FF Chronicles looked like a kiddie game, I will say this once again: You do not have the right to judge a game you haven't played. And playing a game doesn't mean going to a Wal- Mart and playing the preview version for 5 minutes. Playing means actually buying or renting the game and living the game to it's entirety. Sure, if you think a game looks bad, you'd probably not want to buy it, but let me tell you something. A true gamer plays a wide variety of games, all genres, even if he thinks it's a bad game.

The amount of games I have played is very large. I remember back when I was 5 years old, playing games like Moria. What's Moria you ask? Before Playstation, before Nintendo, before Atari, all they had were DOS programmed games. If you don't know what DOS is, I feel for you. Moria was a text based game. It was similar to Babel (Babel is another old DOS text-based game), but it actually had graphics. Guess what you were! &. Yep, you were the "and" sign. Hills or mountains were signified by "^", water was "~", and monsters were a wide variety of symbols, including "#" and "*". The graphics, if you call them graphics, were horrible, but this game had incredible gameplay. I couldn't stop playing it, and it took me a while to beat, as, at 5 years old, I didn't have a lot of logic yet. This game, believe it or not, was almost as enjoyable as Chrono Trigger.

I remember playing "Betrayal at Krondor", an old DOS game which had 3D graphics. The graphics weren't good, but bear with me. If you've ever played any Might and Magic games (btw I have Might and Magic 1-9, luv em all), Betrayal at Krondor is similar to it. Let me give you some history on this game. At around 1977 (before I was born), Raymond E. Feist made publishing history with his epic novel "Magician". If you like Lord of the Rings, you will like Magician. The book Magician was later split into two novels: Magician: Apprentice, and Magician: Master. Some of Feist's other works include "Silverthorn, a Darkness at Sethanon", and "Prince of the Blood". Anyway, Dynamix (Dynamix is an old gaming company specializing in RPGs) decided to make a game out of one of Feist's novels. They called the game Betrayal at Krondor. This game was one of the very first RPGs that really sucked you into the game, making it extremely revolutionary for its time. As Raymond Feist put it: "Dynamix didn't just license a game, hang character names on generic icons and call it a Riftwar Game! They spent hours talking to me about all manner of things in a heartfelt attempt to 'get it right.' The object of the exercise was always to be the first computer game that felt like it was part of a good adventure novel."

The list goes on and on. My point is that all games deserve a chance. Now, I'm not saying to go out and buy Elmo's ABCs for the N64 so that you can see what it's like. If a game is in the genre that you like, and it got decent ratings, try it out! That's what I always do.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

windwaker has nothing on any final fantsty. i didn't like windwaker because it was to kidish just like 90% of nintendo games are

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

how the hell can you compare 64 to ps jun? There is no comparison.. Oot was good, granted.. but it takes more then one good game to make a good system.. ps had countless games.. the gamecube lacked in alot of areas.. Especially RPGs.. Im not sure which i would rate better ps2 or gamecube.. but the fact that you said that n64 and ps were even totally lowers your credibility for any opinion.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that N64 beats PSX. In my opinion, they were pretty evenly matched. And the N64 had a *lot* of excellent games, like OoT, Majora's Mask, Super Smash Bros., Super Mario 64, Rainbow Six, Donkey Kong 64, Banjo-Kazooie (yeah, yeah, it has "kiddie" graphics, whatever), many 007 games, including the renowned Goldeneye, and many more. I agree with you though, PSX beat N64 when it came to RPGs, but when it came to Adventure games, PSX was beat. Nintendo was definitely selling more than Playstation (although not much more), and I know because my uncle worked for Sony in the gaming department.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

well, i sorta agree with link cuz i had a nintnedo64 and a playstation, and i still cant decide which is better, and ive played an immense amount of games for both of them. its just my opinion, but between the cube and ps2, id have to pick the cube.not just cuz it has good graphics, but cuz it has more great and original titles than ps2. whichever of you kids said tht wind waker sucked cuz it has kiddie graphics has to grow up and realize that graphics arent everything.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

I've almost finished the Wind Waker, and while the graphics did put me off at first, I think it's a really solid title as far as games go. However comparing FF7 and Ocarina of Time is not entirely valid, seeing as they are of quite different genres. I've played both, though, and OoT rocked me more.

Btw, the guy that posted the link to Magic-box, that link is wrong and game previews said nothing about FF3 and stuff. As far as the whole Sony vs Nintendo argument goes, I'm kinda on the shelf about it. I've been a Nintendo fan forever, but I can't help noticing all the great RPGs that Sony has given us over the past few years.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

To late, Sony has already beaten Nintendo to it's own Final Fantasy classics and with the PS3 coming out in the next couple years it will have Nintendo running home to it's mommy with pissed soaked pants. Let me ask you this, if Gamecube is so great than why can't you play N64 games on the Gamecube or why didnt Nintendo remastered the Zelda games.....well? It's only a matter of time before Sony conquers the Zelda series.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

bah.. banjo kazooie sucked, it was like nothing in n64 was original.. it was like all good.. but the game play had all been done before!i have a ps and an n64.. and the ps is way better... granted loading times suck.. but i have a mod chip in my ps.. tell me.. does the quality of 64 beat out ps so much that not having to pay for games versus paying an arm and a leg makes them equal? Cd's are much better.. not for the business.. but as an owner of the system... im sorry but n64 is not equal with playstation.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

I think it would be sweet if Playstation, Gamecube, and Xbox came togather to make some kinda super game system so you would be able to buy all the game titles you like, but that would never happen! I really would hate to have to buy another game system so I could just play one or two games, but if Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Soild, or Tomb Raider moved to just the Gamecube than I would buy one.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

I'm surprised that none of you compared anything tot he SNES, easily the best console ever.

Just try to argue against me, it won't work. SNES is better than N64, PS, PS2, XBox, Dreamcast, anything you can think of. No arguments.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

there is no argument.. your right.. but it could be argued that they were able to produce so many good games because they had no competition.. They had lots of money.. and they like owned the whole market for quite awhile... sega? dont make me laugh.. they were never comparable.. I think snes also released more games then any other system...

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Yeah really, there was nothing else out at the time so no one bitch about it, but the SNES is a thing of the past no one remembers it but, the game system that is the #1 game system of all others is the NES, thats the system that made everyone drool when it came out.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

sorry if i offended you by saying ff chronicles looks "kinda" (not entirely) kiddie. it's just that final fantasy games that aren't part of the numbered series do not appeal to me that much. i'm not put off by the sd graphics and action/rpg style gameplay as i love those. it's just that the games like tactics and chronicles are totally different from the originals and should've been called something else. X-2 doesen't really appeal to me since it's not a true sequel to the ff series but to a ff game. I'm still gonna play it to see it there is any story instead of just fanservice. Also, whoever said that there was over 10 original nintendo ff games, you are so wrong! there has been like 8 max. 1-6 for nes & snes, 1 gamecube and 1 for gba. the ones on the original gameboy are part of the saga series and seiken densetsu 1 (mana series). Sony is going to have 7 ff games. so, basically both companies will have 6 'true' ff games apiece but on you'll be able to play all twelve on the ps2.

my bad for giving out the wrong link to the site. the correct site for ff3 and other old snes goodie rpgs re-releases: http://www.the-magicbox.com/game080503.htm

And yes, i totally agree that the snes is the best console ever! it's got the most amazing rpgs that never crossed the pacific. DQ6 baby! And was the number one console for fighting games. 6 buttons! Apparently they said snes sports game didn't compare to genesis, but imo they were better, better graphics, color and more buttons to do deke and spin moves.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

i dont care if ps2 ore cube is better the game is the most inportend think! i only buy cube for metroid and zelda this 2 games are awesome! but psx is in the moment the most populer consol!

by the way do someone now there i can dl Seiken Densetsu 3 as rom ore as image for nero?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Hells yeah. I sometimes still play my SNES. Oh yeah and the PS2 is hella old compared to the GC, so of course its outdated. I can't wait for the PS3. Sony all the way. Its has the greatest amount of great games. Sure, the GC has great games, but not in the amount the PS2 has. Oh, and the games are what count for a system. THat is why I got a PS2 and a GC, but I like my PS2 more because I have more great games for it than the GC.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

The only people who don't remember the SNES are the same idiots who play games for graphics and won't watch Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam because the animation sucks.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Actually Chris, Squaresoft is working with Nintendo now. Final Fantasy Crysal Chronicles is coming out for Gamecube.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Yes, something we can all agree on. The SNES!! Easily the best system out there. Home of some of my favorite games, the really long ones that made me drool. I also agree that only an idiot plays games for the sole purpose of graphics. I have both a PS2 and a Gamecube, and have played many games for both of them, and while PS2 has more great titles, the Gamecube houses more truly quality games. Yes, i think that the N64s choice of the cartridge over the CD was a mistake, but that doesnt mean that the games were any less quality than the PSX games.

As to who said Banjo-Kazooie sucked, go sit on something. Banjo- Kazooie is a very original game, not only regarding the characters, but also the plot. I dont think many games were modeled after a fairy tale before this one. It had excellent game play, and at times, was hilarious! In my arsenal of games, there are not only hardcore action games and deep plotted rpgs, but also games that are truly enjoyable and make you laugh. FF7, OoT, WindWaker, and Metroid Prime are some of the best truly quality games out there.

btw, gamecube will be coming out with *many* great new titles this year, such as a new 007 game, WarioWorld, FZero GX (awesome), Soul Calibur II, FF Chronicles, and Pikmin II, just to name a few. Yeah, yeah, Pikmin may have "kiddie" graphics, but it is a very fun game to play, and in my opinion, thats the only thing that counts. Thats one thing that SNES teaches us, is that despite graphics, sound, and plot, the most important factor in a game is how enjoyable it is.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

banjo kazooie is good? haha i own that game and there is not like one good aspect about it. The music is lame, the game play isnt that fun, the graphics look incredibly childish, and the characters are annoying.. sit on somthing? Ill sit on the toilet and take a shit for that game:p

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Hey Gonondorf, you just trashed your whole foundation of routing for the gamecube. First you said that gamecube was much better than the PS2!!! because of "graphics," and of course, its originality in games. Now, you're trying to say that graphics aren't everything. Also, did you mention quality? Oh yeah, what is your definition of quality? I'm eighteen, and you can do the math yourself. When I was 4 years old, I go to the arcades by myself and play games, I owned 4 NES systems by age 5 (constantly on, constantly breaking), and by age 7, I dominated in street fighter 2 in the arcade store, so I can say I am definitely a video game die hard fan. Which part of the games are original? Sure, when Mario 64 for N64 came out, that game was sort of original in its graphics and 3D free roaming environment. I have to admit that it was out of its league (but wasn't that just a tremendous upgrade from MARIO RPG for the SNES system? (yeah, definitely one of my favs) And hasn't most gamecube games revolve around just that free roaming environment crap? Sure graphics are nice in a game, but if all you really want to see is graphics, then turn that stupid system off and download an anime or something. All the fantastic new gamecube games you're talking about (such as FF Crystal C and other BS u mention?) aren't they just sequels to their own "ol" original selfs? So how are these new games original? You just defeated your ownself Gonondorf. Have fun responding.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Excuse me, BilliS, but at no time did I say that the Gamecube beats the PS2 because of graphics. If you would actually read through the topic, it was someone else who said that, not me. Also, when I was listing off those games, I didn't say that they were "original", I said that they were "new". There is a difference, wouldn't ya know. In fact, I think the only time that I ever said the word "original" is when I was describing Banjo-Kazooie!

And why are you saying that all I want to see is graphics?? See, if you had actually read the topic thoroughly, you'd know that that isn't true! I just got done earlier today saying that graphics about the least amount of influence on the quality of a game! You're just another die-hard gamer wannabe who's trying to look cool by rewording what I have been saying throughout this whole topic, and making it seem like I'm the stupid one.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

dude, billis, what da hell r you talking about? how the hell did link dominate himself? it was Wolfwood that said that the cube had better graphics!! links the one who said that graphics aint everything! get a life, man!

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

billis...............learn to read

anyway, snes is probably the greatest console of all time, but also, u cant say its graphics are bad, considering it was the most powerful console of its time and had the ability to display 32-bit graphics. anyway, the snes was the most incredible console ever, pure playability, loads of great games which have lead many of them to have sequels produced

also, im not really against the use of cartridges, cos they survived loads of knocks, throws, drops etc. and still worked fine, yet ive had cds that shatter upon touching the floor (i HATE that)

dont forget, all consoles have different markets to appeal to. the reason i think the ps2 does so well (apart from its 1 year earlier release) is that it appeals to casual gamers, which is a much larger market than the dedicated ones. it also has a dvd player in it, which at the time was amazing cos they (dvd players) were still very expensive. nintendo has always had an everybody idea in mind - the games look childish, but their content is good ebough to appeal to all ages (in the way shrek could be enjoyed by adults as well as children) xbox is what stumped me - im not sure the market it goes for - originally it was a console for pc users, then it tried the dedicated games crossed over with casual ones. basically they have a pretty confused idea of who to appeal to.

i know its the games that really matter, but many people consider the image a console has, and i know many people who dont want the gamecube cos it looks childish (i pity the fools)

and even though im a cube and nintendo fan all the way (nintendo are kings at whaty they do) i appreciate what other companies do (rivalry makes higher standards of hardware and videogames appear leading to greater enjoyment), and honestly, if all the anime games that came out in japan came out here aswell, i would definitely have a ps2 (but only for these anime games - particularly gundam games)

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

"You guys like anime, ne? Wind Waker is like playing through an anime. Yeah, I know. Wind Waker's graphics aren't as anime-esque as one might think. Actually, FF games' graphics look more like anime, but the game doesn't feel like an anime like Wind Waker does. You guys think that the only good graphics are ones that convey hardcore action. Only the sharpest graphics are worth looking at."

Yeah, I'm not sure who said that.. maybe Ishould double check again. And no one said good graphics are ones that convey hardcore action, that's just your own belief of other's notions. And you did mention that only the *sharpest* graphics*** are worth looking at? Did you not? Oh, my bad again for not wearing glasses and contradicting you again. And btw, I did read all of it, maybe that's why I mistakenly took in the original part as your work, I gt confused as I read along, so I do apologize for that part. And if you want to call me one of those a*holes that only likes to reword others' saying for my sole pleasure, then so be it. I just find what this article say agitating, especially when it comes to GC dessimating Ps2? hahaha...

P.s. And Joe, um.. yea wolfwood did say graphics are everything, but when I was talking about Gonondorf's graphic issue (how he contradicted himself) I was talking about the *sharpest graphic part and his later topics about how graphics aren't everything all of a sudden.... following what most people was agreeing about.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Dude you guys can sit and talk about Nintendo all you want.. but the only thing that makes nintendo usefull is the gameboy sp.. Other then that the gamecube has got like nothing... Your marveling about all these games.. but none of them compare to the Sony releases.. so preach on but your arguments are feeble. The Snes was the best system.. but the Snes is a thing of the past now.. nintendos got nothing on sony

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

um, sony has almost nothing themselves - they dont make their own games, they only publish them, so their standards tend to be much lower compared to nintendo who produce games that are almost always of a decent standard

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Hey, Billis punk, the actual quote was this:

"You guys like anime, ne? Wind Waker is like playing through an anime. Yeah, I know. Wind Waker's graphics aren't as anime-esque as one might think. Actually, FF games' graphics look more like anime, but the game doesn't feel like an anime like Wind Waker does. You guys think that the only good graphics are ones that convey hardcore action. Only the sharpest graphics are worth looking at. Well, it aint true."

You guys see, this billis guy cut off the last sentence of what i said before just so that he could pretend to be right. In that quote above, I was conveying the mindset of the people who think about nothing but graphics in a game. You obviously didn't read the whole thing, or you did and decided to cut off the last part to try to sway everyone towards your side. What, you think I wouldn't notice that? Well, you were sadly mistaken.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

guys, dont even listen to billis here. hes just a load of crap.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

hey, link, by that "Only the sharpest graphics are worth lookin at" thing, did u mean that as in that is the type of things that idiots who only care about graphics think about? I was kinda confused about that too

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Yes! That's what I meant. Sorry for any inconvenience, that context of that quote was slightly off. I meant to say it like this:

"You guys like anime, ne? Wind Waker is like playing through an anime. Yeah, I know. Wind Waker's graphics aren't as anime-esque as one might think. Actually, FF games' graphics look more like anime, but the game doesn't feel like an anime like Wind Waker does. You guys think that the only good graphics are ones that convey hardcore action and only the sharpest graphics are worth looking at. Well, it aint true."

Now, BilliS, read through that. If you still don't understand it, well, you're an idiot.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

So I wasn't the only one who misinterpret that sentenc, also corky allen, I dun think you have any rights to claim my opinions as a bunch of crap, because I'm jut offering my ideas. So dun get me started on your mouth of fecal materials, and should I also state that your opinions are a bunch of insolence to the rest of us just like you did to me?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

Yeah, sorry for the misunderstanding, BilliS.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

hmm.. i think this is the longest topic here since that 2 day party you guys had a while ago

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

well.. this is like a highly controversial topic as far as gaming goes.. It used to be sega vs nintendo.. even though sega sucked balls.. and then sony showed up.. and now microsoft... but its all a matter of preference really.. cause i mean, it all comes down to preference in games.. cause in reality there isn't a correct answer.. just a majority of opinion...

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

truth is though, nintendo is the only company on the market that specialises in gaming, where as the others are using their external influence (sony = dvd´s, tv's etc. microsoft = pcs) to try and dominate it quickly and make a quick buck in my opinion (though microsoft lost 2.6 billion dollars from the xbox in 3 months at one point, but now its decreased slightly, and this is compared to a 3 month turnover of 27 billion dollars)

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

News Flash: Microsoft's XBox sales dropped 50% today, dropping Bill Gate's total net worth to more money than we can ever dream of.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2003

lol... Rich people that arent me suck hahahaha

-- Anonymous, August 12, 2003

http://www.action4life.com/cms/hardware/SonysPlans.php

Here is a link to some of the stuff Sony is doing/going to do.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 2003

Gameboy advance rocks but gaycube smells,ps2 rocks man,better graphix better games,AND FINAL FANTASY 7/KINGDOM HEARTS! W00T W00T

-- Anonymous, September 25, 2003

Oh my gosh. I can't believe that someone just said Sony would take Zelda. I mean, please, why would Nintendo sell such a good game? And besides, PS/PS2 already tried to match Zelda with Dark Cloud One (Zelda Killer!) And it didn't work. Though I admit the PS2 is a better console, it's graphics have got nothing on GameCube. And in Japan, they already have a DVD GameCube with burning cabablities.

-- Anonymous, September 27, 2003

I believe that both the n64 and the playstation rule. For the n64 the games are cool and nintendo own the whole pokemon series (ok maybe a little kiddie, but what the hey), and i believe that sony could never top nintendo for the zelda series because zelda ricks!.

But still the ff series do rule in the rpg terms, but when you think about it zelda and ff are really the same game, the main charcter has a sword and RPg translates into Role Playing Game, so in zelda you play a role and so do you in FF.

Nintendo did at first relaease the FF series except whgen it came to ff7 it went to sony.

Now as you would already know sony are rereleasing all of the ff games onto psx they have dont ff1 ff2 ff3 ff4 ff5 ff6 ff7 ff8 ff9 ff0 ff10-2 and soon ff 11

I hope that the gamecube get a cool game like this because i would like to see the final fantasy series move on to other consoles. I mean thar i know that there are some ff games on gameboy like ff tactics, and that has also being released on the psx along with other ff games, and with sony owning most of squaresoft they could use the characters in other games (kingdom hearts!!!!!!!), and kingdom heats is really like zelda if you think about it because they both have the same sort of gameplay.

So to sum up Nintendo 100% Playstaion 100%

That was my two cents

-- Anonymous, October 27, 2003