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http://www.msnbc.com/news/627125.asp Target: Millennium celebrations in the Middle East and the United States
When: Jan. 1-5, 2000
Plan: Carry out bombings at three locations in Jordan, as well as Los Angeles International Airport, and Aden, Yemen, killing hundreds of Americans, including U.S. sailors on board the USS The Sullivans.
Outcome: Jordan plot foiled with arrests of 12 accused bombers in Jordan in early December 1999; Los Angeles plot foiled with arrest of two accused bombers in Port Angeles, Wash., and Brooklyn, N.Y., in late December 1999; attack on USS The Sullivans ends with bomb-laden boat sinking in Aden Harbor. (USS Cole later attacked, on Oct. 12, 2000, killing 17 sailors.)
-- Anonymous, September 12, 2001
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-- Anonymous, September 12, 2001
Target: Millennium celebrations in the Middle East and the United States When: Jan. 1-5, 2000 Plan: Carry out bombings at three locations in Jordan, as well as Los Angeles International Airport, and Aden, Yemen, killing hundreds of Americans, including U.S. sailors on board the USS The Sullivans. Outcome: Jordan plot foiled with arrests of 12 accused bombers in Jordan in early December 1999; Los Angeles plot foiled with arrest of two accused bombers in Port Angeles, Wash., and Brooklyn, N.Y., in late December 1999; attack on USS The Sullivans ends with bomb-laden boat sinking in Aden Harbor. (USS Cole later attacked, on Oct. 12, 2000, killing 17 sailors.)Your point?
-- Anonymous, September 12, 2001
Go ask this SCUMBAG now trying to take credit for y2k preps saving Wall St. Corps.http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php? s=ad91889447de13030be35276342e4862&threadid=6740
In addition to the dozens of emails I've received from people all over the world who wanted to express their sympathy and condolences, I've also received numerous emails from people asking "Is this what Y2K was all about?"
Well, obviously, the Y2K computer problem had nothing to do with massive, coordinated terrorist attacks ... except that one of the associated risks that we did worry about during those days was the possibility of just such an attack. Indeed, it seems that we came fairly close to such an event on New Year's Eve, if the authorities had not captured a couple of would-be terrorists crossing the border from Canada.
In any case, it does seem that Y2K preparations may have provided some degree of assistance for the companies located in the WTC; and it may have provided some assistance for the various telco's and ISP's who are madly scrambling to re-route their systems after their switching systems were destroyed in the basement of the WTC.
On a personal level, I've heard from several people who said, "Thank goodness for the preparations, and also for the mindset that I developed during the buildup to Y2K." For anyone living south of 14th Street in Manhattan, all of this has presumably had a real, tangible, immediate payoff. But perhaps equally important, it has provided some degree of reassurance for people everywhere else -- as they realize that they have the physical and mental preparations to help them cope with whatever infrastructure disruptions might occur as a result of this awful tragedy. If nothing else, the term "bug-out bag" has achieved a new level of respect in the community...
One of the many aspects of this crisis that has occurred to me is the "six-degrees-of-separation" concept. I've got a relatively tight circle of immediate family and friends, and thankfully all of them are safe. But at the next, "second-degree" layer consisting of "friends of friends," I've already recorded two casualties -- one of whom was on the American flight that got hijacked out of Boston. As we begin to put the pieces together, I'm sure that all of us are going to be saddened and shocked by the number of 2nd-layer and 3rd-layer casualties. After all, with an estimated 10,000 or 20,000 casualties, it's almost impossible not to end up knowing someone who knew someone who knew a victim of the attack.
Best wishes to everyone. Keep your family close and safe in the days ahead.
Ed
-- Anonymous, September 14, 2001
On a personal level, I've heard from several people who said, "Thank goodness for the preparations, and also for the mindset that I developed during the buildup to Y2K." For anyone living south of 14th Street in Manhattan, all of this has presumably had a real, tangible, immediate payoff. But perhaps equally important, it has provided some degree of reassurance for people everywhere else -- as they realize that they have the physical and mental preparations to help them cope with whatever infrastructure disruptions might occur as a result of this awful tragedy. If nothing else, the term "bug-out bag" has achieved a new level of respect in the community...Uh, yeah right Ed Yourdon. Take your "bug-out bag" and your "physical and mental preparations" and shove it. Those preparations haven't helped anybody. What has helped is something the Y2K-doom crowd could never understand--the way people have come together to help and the way many are working on rescuing people without worrying about any preparations or bug-out bag.
What a scumbag.
-- Anonymous, September 14, 2001
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TYR/message/2527From: Steve Heller <steve@s...>
Date: Sun Sep 16, 2001 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TYR] I've written an essay on the WTC attack... Good point, but actually I was referring to these events coming to pass now rather than at the end of 1999. On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:03:50 -0600, Ed Yourdon <ed@y...> wrote: >Well, those of us who live in NYC actually DID think about it, with regard >to the possibility of a terrorist attack in Times Square on New Year's Eve. >As you recall, the government did manage to catch a couple of would-be >terrorists as they crossed the border from Canada, just a week or so before >the rollover. > >From: Steve Heller <steve@s...> >Reply-To: T YR@yahoogroups.com >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:27:53 -0500 >To: T YR@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [TYR] I've written an essay on the WTC attack... > > >On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:27:46 -0600, Ed Yourdon <ed@y...> wrote: > >>Well, all of this is food for thought. We all have a lot of thinking to do >>at this point -- not only in terms of what we think about our government's >>actions and policies, but also how it will trickle down into our own >>personal lives and plans. > > Indeed. And oddly enough, having been a "Y2K doomer" has been >validated by these events, as we are now facing many of the same >horrid possibilities we worried about then. Who would have thought it? -- Steve Heller, WA0CPP http://www.steveheller.com
-- Anonymous, September 16, 2001
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