I have always been fasinated with Numerolgy. Hope I am spelling it right. It's the believe that there is great meaning in numbers and the way that they work to gether. Well I finally got around to looking up our BTS Forum and was amazed at what was found!

Beyond the Sidewalks translates into the compound number of 13, which is not an unlucky number as some may think but a number of upheavel, so that new ground may be broken.The compound number of an entity represents the inner workings of the entity. Here I will quote Linda Goodman, from her book Linda Goodman Starsigns. " the number 13 is represented by a skeleton with a scythe, reaping down men in a field of new grown grass, where faces and heads appear to be thrusting through the ground and emerging on all sides. It is a number of upheavel so that new ground can be broken. 13 is associated with genius , with explorers, breaking of the orthodox, and seeking new discoveries. ". there is warnings of the unknown or the unexpected. Adapting to change gracefully will bring out 13s strength, and decrease any potential for negetive. 13 is associated with power, which should not be used for selfish purposes which would bring destrction upon itself.The Ancients believed that he who learned how to use the number 13 wisely will be given power and domain."

The compound number of our password number (which is important to us because we pass thorugh it every time we come here)represents the inner part of us, is 11 . Now this is where it gets funny, listen to this! " A Lion Muzzled, A Clenched Fist. This is a number of hidden trials and treachery from others. It represents two opposed situations. Compatibility of interest is lacking and interference from a third force must be conquered. The diffuculties may arise from the illusion of seperation. It is nescessary to unite divided goals to avoid a sense of frustrated incompletion. The third, interfering force can be a person or an idea, and it can take the form of a refusal to see the other side as an obstacle to harmony. the origin of the separating force must be identified, an attempt made to seek compromise.Occasionally, conflicting desires within one's own self are seen as in a reflecting mirror. Tow forces or two desires stand apart and must ultimately unite for happiness. Yet, each must remain individual, even after being joined, for each to possess its own worth."

What do you all think about this? Isn't it wild that when Jim grabbed those numbers to make this a closed forum , he grabbed the numbers of the clenced fist! too wild, I say!

the single number of our password is a two. Single numbers represent how we appear to others.the two represents people who need a home base. " This is the chicken soup vibration representing concern with the well being of others. A sort of hovering around everyone, making sure that they don't catch a cold, The two vibration is also secretive, and never lets any one know what the next move might be. The Two represents the need to over come fear, possessiveness, and unnecessary caution, letting imagination, adaptability and intuition carry them to the fullfillment of their dreams. Two also represents a high romantic nature, and a phychic nature. A highly developed intuition." remember this is our outward appearance, how we appear to others.

the single number of our name Beyond the sidewalks is a 4. this represents an entity that lives and lets live. four represents change in regards to life, politics and art, but having inner habits that remain rather fixed. Thus BTS's will be quite stubborn when people try to dictate or try to mold it into a more acceptible pattern. 4 represents an entity that lives far into the future, who;s grandest and truest visions are ofter ridiculed or ignored. four represents tolerance and brotherhood. Friendship is vital to the four vibration.It represents busels of friends from all walks of life.

One would need to do the birth date of our forum too. Which I don't remember when it was, somebody retell me? That would be impotant to consider and put together with the other numbers, that way we could compare birth number and name number.

My turn on the computer is over. What do ya all think? Tren

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Answers

I've been sort of dabbling in numerology lately! My birthdate comes out to be a 4. And your description fits pretty well. I never thought of using it for other than personal names. I agree that is pretty wild about the board anme and the password!

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Oops I didn't mean to say closed forum as it is a password forum, Oh Jim I like the password, it was easy to remember.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Denise my birth number is a four, too, It gets pretty complicated, wouldn't you know that 4 is the number that is the number of fate, guess we chose this number relizing that we had heavy karmic debts to balance! Man! They describe like we are cramming before a test! But it shouldn't be dreaded but realized as a helpful means to disipline one's self and can be quite positive in a apiritual sence. You know, I hate disipline, Its my thing I guess to conquer disipline in this life, or to give in to it! If you are into it Denise I will send you the things that we are to avoid so that we aren't too overwlemed. Love Tren

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Wow!

That's pretty wild, Tren. I'm rushing around getting ready for a doctor's appointment so I haven't taken the time to *really* sit down and read the whole thing but I will when I get back this afternoon. But what I've read so far sounds like it hits the mark pretty good.

One would need to do the birth date of our forum too. Which I don't remember when it was, somebody retell me? That would be impotant to consider and put together with the other numbers, that way we could compare birth number and name number.

Our forum was born on April 1st of this year. I'll be really curious to see if you find any significance in that date. :-)

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

I've taken some classes in numerology and I have a couple of really good books on the subject. I can post some more info about what the numbers mean but I'm really busy right now and I probably won't have time to get to it until after Lughnasadh (August 1st).

If anybody's interested in a mini-numerology reading, I would need your full birth name and date of birth. I'm not very fast though, so don't expect an instant response! :)

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Oh, I forgot to say that you can just email me directly with your personal information, you don't need to post it here. :)

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

OK our forum is an Aries, which harmonizes well with the birth number of one. The name number , password number and birth number all work well together. The birth number of our forum being one, represents creativity, protection, and benelence. One is the number of ouriginal action, the initiating basis of all other numbers. Entitys being born on the first possess a strong sense of self worth, and a marked dislike for criticism. An entity marked by the one, usually demands and gets repect.The underlying desire is to be inventive, creative, and strongly original. CAn be stubborn. Dislike restraint, and must feel free. Will arise to some position of authority in what ever they undertake. The number one entity will be protecting of the weak, defencive of the helpless. The number one entity resents familiarity from strangers but is extremly warm and affectionate with those who are loved and trusted.

Sherri, those classes must have been fun, it will be cool to hear your insights.

Who will voluntier to be done on here, as I think it would be very interesting! And nothing is really embarrasing, I sure would like to look some of you up! And Sherri can tell you even more. Maybe we should do our nicknames on here as that will be how we are here. TRen

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

This is really neat, Tren. I've heard of this subject before but never had the time to get into it.

Sherri...I have no problem with posting my full name and DOB here. I trust you all!! Marcia Elaine Webber birthdate: 1/13/51

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Here's mine: James Burton Morris 07/21/1965

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Hey Sherri...I should have given you my maiden name, duh!! I've had Webber for soooo long... Anyways, birth LAST name is Snably. Sorry 'bout that!!

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

I've done some work with numerology, but not recently....I come out an 8 just about any way that you want to count.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

And there is another question, Tren!! If you take another name when you get married, does that sort of change you numerical/numerology focus as well? How about if you never use your birth name - I've never gone by my "real" name; so what would be my actual focus; rel name or who I've always been?! I, too, find numerolgy interesting - just wish I had enough time to study all the things that interest me!!

Birth name: Ellen Renee Mulvaney; DOB: 9/16/1958 @ 9 pm CST. Go by name: Polly Mulvaney. Married name: Gano

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

There's different opinions on the name thing. My teacher said that he tends to put more weight on the birth name because that's the name that your spirit chose to be born into. Other people put more weight on the name you most closely identify with. He suggested running the numbers both ways and seeing which way fits better.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

I believe that the birth number is the most important. It's our basic foundation that we cannot change, indeed may even have picked. We can change our name numbers if they are not so good, which is what I am going to do, as I just looked up my e-mail name and pen name and they are not so good. You can change name numbers pretty easily just by changing a letter. sometimes you don't even have to change the prononciation of a word, but yet change its whole meaning. For instance you could change Skye to Sky. Sometimes you could add or drop a letter, change an e to an i, or so and so.

Polly you should use the name that your documents are in, what do your letters come as. Your maiden name would detect how you were then.

Its good to compare the sunsign of an entity or person because you will then know if they harmoize, intensifie,oppose or are in sharp contrast. For example our BTS's sunsign (birth number)is Aries which is in harmonie with its birth number of four. An example of a birth number being in sharp contrast with a sunsign, would be me as I am a Picses with a birth number of 4. My basic Picses instincts are to go with the flow, to get along, but then sometimes my individual four instints will pop out and I will insist on doing something my way, surprizing myself and everyone else. These are the kinds of things that Sheri can tell us more about.

I have had alot of fun, and been very surprized at the birth numbers and how they have described people in my life. You can get a pretty good numerology book at any second hand book store for those of you who are more interested. I think that it would be very interesting to hear about the people on this board. I can't wait untill Sheri does it. I can't wait to look up some of your birth numbers! Maybe you can tell me more too Sheri, I was born on the 4th, and am a Pisces.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Well I looked up Polly, Sherri, I'll tell what I found about her birth number, Let us know any more to share. It's just so cool, it sounds just like Polly.

Pollys birthdate number being a compound of 16, lets us know that Polly should listen to the voice within,which will always warn of any coming danger , it will warn you through dreams, or the intuition in time to avoid, mistakes. (Polly, the dream you had that caused you to save your friend!) Your inner voice must not be ignored! Abraham Lincoln was a 16 and he had dreams that warned him which he didnt heed. A 16 should make all plans in advance, making sure that any possible failure is anticipated. Attention could save the 16 personality.

Polly your single birth number is 7 and can sometimes oppose your Virgo sun sign but it can also be used to balance your sun sign.

7 people have remarkable dreams, they may not always talk about them but they have them.They may secretly have an intense interest in esoteric mysteries, mythology, spacecraft or U.f.os and the entire forest of the unknown. They of ten possess gifts of intuition, clarrivoyance and a cccccalming magnetism which is a great influence over others. Often their mere pressence has a smoothing effect on a troubled person. ( Polly, and you are a nurse in a physiatric ward!)

the 7 person is associated with peculiar ideas about religion, a dislike of following the beaten path, and a tendency to adopt political beliefs which are unigue and somewhat nonorthodox. It is not unusual for a 7 person to discover, found or believe in a new religous concept.

the 7 person will ither travel extensively at some time in their life or else read avidly books about foreign people and faraway places. Many of them are attracted to the sea.and are at some time associated with sailing, water sports, or the navy.Theres a tendency to be anxious about the future, which is why 7 people need to know they have a rock of financial security somewhere in the backgound , lest of waters of fate sweep them away.

yet, they care little about material possesssions or accumulating great welath. When they gravitate towards the arts, they make great dancers, singers, poets, writers, actors, or actresses ( We all know what a great writer, Polly is!)

In their own quiet laid back way, they have ambitions they don't discuss with others, and thses are always tinged with a philisophical outlook.They bless others with the grace of their sympathetic understanding of pain and suffering which is shy friends, relatives and associates unburden their troubles to the 7 person.

There is a strong tendency towards privacy in the 7 person an they prefer to keep their own troubles to themselves. They shrink from prying questions and have a hoororof "big brother' or anything that they consider to be an evasion of their private world.

refined manners, an artistic temperament and a sensitive nature make up the 7 essence, and don't let these people fool you with their sometimes taciturn natjure, you'd be surprized if you knew all the strange thoughts that swim through their heads.

If you can get them to share your not only be surprizwed but fasinated when you learn the secrets of their Neptunian world. But the 7 person must find you trustworthy before they share these inner streams of comtemplation, You youll have to earn that trust by proving that you are not judgmental or prejudiced. 7 people are rarely either.

What do you think polly?

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Hey Tren - that is really wild! When you get a break from everyone else asking - let me know. I would like mine done too.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Wow!! That is so neat! Okay, where do I send the check for this nifty reading of my birth numbers ;o) Thanks bunches Trennie!!

After I got my head back out of the vise (trying to squeeze it back down to normal size after reading this inflated it!), I showed this to Hubby. He said "Yup. Sounds like you allright." I want to know what the bad quirks are though!! All those things sounded okay to me!

And you guys already know about the strange thoughts that swim through my head....since they seem to swim right on out of my fingers onto the keyboard and thence to this forum!

Boy, Sheepish is gonna be sorry she missed this one!

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Polly if there is a bad quark to your number it is that you MUSt pay attention to your inner voice. Abraham Lincoln had warnings of his assasination that he did not heed. You have the challenge of meeting this obligation.

OK Jim, you are a Cancer, born on the 21st, that makes your single birth number vibrate in contrast with your Cancer sign.That means that when the number three tendencys come out they can shock you and others.

number three people base every action upon a great ideal. They aim for truth, and nothing less then truth will satisfy them, whether they seek the truth of a love affair, a friendshop, a career, politics, or religionl They are not easily put off by evasive ansers or deception and they can spot a lie, a distortion, or dishonesty a mile away. some of them achieve the goal of truth, others are misled into believing their own illusions, but they never stop searching. Yhr 3 vibration is fiercely independent, seeks total freedom of speech and movement and cannot be tied down. Travel is an abslute neccesity, mingling with others and seeing the world, learning everything there is to know about every country and its people and every intellectual concept, every philosoply.

They tend to look at the bright side of everything, and their optimism is contagious. Because of the shining quest for truth, the 3 person is either an atheist, or intensely devoted to a religious principle. religion is fevently fanatically accepted or bitterly rejuected. the attitude is never neutral.

Physical challenge inspires the 3 peopld, therefore sports play a major role. The 3 vibration is blunt of speech, candid, . There is a genuine love for aminals and a tendency to defend the underdog. Theres a marked indifference to family ties, and marriage works only when the freedom is total.The 3 vebration is associated with tests of physical strength , gambling, and taking a chance, wheather at the casinos or on the floor of the stock market. They willl take a chance on jsut about anything.

Jim your compound birth number is 21 which represents final victory over all odds and all opposition. It's a most fortunate vibration, a number of karmic reward. 21 represents victory after a long struggle for the Crown will be obtained after much soul testing and determination.

Dianne Willow, I know I have your birhday someplace, but where? could you remind me?

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Maricia, your single birth number of 4, is also in sharp contrast with your Capricorn birth sign, this doesn't mean that it doesnt affect you, it just means that you are unpredictable, as it goes against your basic nature and can be surprizing when it happens.

Marcia, you are a four along with me and Denise. four represents individualism, orginality, inventiveness and tolerance. 4 is the number of unconventional behavior and sudden unexpected events, sometimes of genius.

Marked individuality colors every thought and action of the 4 person. If there is a different way to do anything the 4 person will find it. 4 people live in the future, caring little about the present. Going along with this trait is a tendency for prophecy for knowing what will ahppen tomorrow. their lifestyles range from unconventional to the bizare, yet their, crazy ideas are successful more often than not.

Anything off the beaten path appeals to the 4 persons questing curious nature.

a four person is deeply convinced of the reality of whatever can be conceived in the mind. to be told that a thing is impossible only intensifies and spurs the 4 personsresolve to prove it is possible.

Maricia to read 13 which is your compound birth number look up at the first post because our BTS's name number is 13.

The 4 vibration advocates change in every area of life. but thses people are rather reluctant to accept change in their personal habbits, which remain rather fixed. They can be quite stubborn when people try to mold them into social patterns.

Because prophets are often unreconized in their own time, and because 4 people live in the future, their grandest dreams and visions are often ridiculed or ignored. They are facinated with UFO's and their secret wish is to be captured and taken aboard, hopefully not to returen to the chaos of Earth.

They are didicated to tolerance and brotherhood. Friendshop is vital to them, they usually have lots of friends. Money means little to them, they mix with paupers and Kings.

They don't notice their surroundings as much as they notice what is in their imagination. One of their finest virtues is to live and let live, the four person doesn't care how you worship god and wishes for you not to care how he does.

Marcia to see the meaning of your compound number 13 , look at the first post as 13 is the compound number of BTS's. sorry i'm awearing out. SHERI! Hurry!

Oh Yah, and Marcia there is some special cosmic debts that us four people and I believe Julie said that she was an 8. both thsoe numbers have a special laws that we have to follow, we can't let 4's and 8's pile up on us. the Ancients belived the 4and the 8 to be the numbers of destiny and fate. Hard luck seems to find these numbers. The numbers are 4,8,13,17,22,26,31,these numbers all divide down to four. with the 8 bearing the most. Do not let any names, numbers or any 4 number that you can avoid remain in your life, change the spelling of your name, your phone number or address if it reduces to 4 if 4 is your single birth number, or it may be too much carma, to make life bearable.

Rereading this stuff after all these years I am still amazed at how it so fits people. Up above it says that 4 people are attracted to places off the beaten path. That is so true for me, as I would much rather stop at a local pub, diner or coffe shop, a place that is original, then ANY chain restaurant. Yep, that fits.

Yep, I really would like to be abducted by space aliens and taken away into the worlds beyond..

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

Hey Tren, Thanks...that was really amazing! For years I've been trying to convince my husband that I had "geniusness" hidden somewhere!! And the stubborn/crazy thing sounds familiar, too :-)! Funny you should mention UFO's. Hubby and I were out on our boat last Sat. nite lying on the deck watching the stars (beautiful clear nite) and saw what we first thought was a shooting star. But it moved rather erratic and never burned out the way a shooting star does. Don't believe it was a plane as there were no flashing taillights, or whatever you call them! Anyways, we were kinda hoping they'd come down and take us to Mars to homestead in peace!!! Thanks again for the reading.

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

Am I to late? My birth name is Cathleen Renee Fitzpatrick 4-22 1967 thanks this is neat.

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

I'm so swamped with work, garden, and family stuff right now that I'm not even going to have the time to pull out my books until next weekend. I may be able to do a little tomorrow night, but don't hold your breath. Trennie is doing a great job though. I didn't study the correlations between astrology and numerology so she's our expert there.

Tren, does the book that you're using mention Karmic numbers? 11, 22, 33, 16, and 17 are karmic numbers, there are special rules for when you do and do not reduce them to a single digit. I was born on Nov. 16th so I have two karmic numbers in my birthdate, my birthyear reduces to a 1 and my entire birthdate reduces to a 9, so I'm all about endings and beginnings and working through past stuff.

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

WOW! I haven't been back since you first posted this. What a response!

Trendle, we must be alot alike. Not only the # 4 but I was just reminded that we are both Pisces! And the restaurant thing! Were we twins separated at birth? You know we both live in Ohio also!

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

Sherri, Yah that's why I am not EVEn attempting to do any body's name number, all those karmic numbers can get pretty confusing! Maybe you will be able to deciper some names soon, don't want anybody going around with extra burdens when they can loosen the slack by dropping or adding a letter.

Marcia, Yes a four person can be a genious but remember your and mine Sun signs are in sharp contrast with our birth numbers so if we do manage a streak of genious it will be much to everyones surprize!grin

Denise, that is wild, Maybe we should check this out. What color is your hair?

Tren,

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

You might find this a fun site to play with: AstroCenter

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

Well, I'd say you had some definite hits and some definite misses, Tren.

I bolded the areas where you got it right. I make a brief comment on where you didn't...

number three people base every action upon a great ideal. They aim for truth, and nothing less then truth will satisfy them, whether they seek the truth of a love affair, a friendshop, a career, politics, or religion. They are not easily put off by evasive ansers or deception and they can spot a lie, a distortion, or dishonesty a mile away. some of them achieve the goal of truth, others are misled into believing their own illusions, but they never stop searching. Yhr 3 vibration is fiercely independent, seeks total freedom of speech and movement and cannot be tied down. Travel is an abslute neccesity, mingling with others and seeing the world, learning everything there is to know about every country and its people and every intellectual concept, every philosoply.

For me, travel is NOT a neccesity. At all. I've been a home-body all my life. I'm perfectly content to stay at home and let people come to me which I think is natural for people like me born under Cancer.

They tend to look at the bright side of everything, and their optimism is contagious. Because of the shining quest for truth, the 3 person is either an atheist, or intensely devoted to a religious principle. religion is fevently fanatically accepted or bitterly rejuected. the attitude is never neutral.

Well, I'm NOT an optimist. In fact, I can get pretty gloomy at times - downright pessimistic, actually. I'm glad Ruth is the optimist in our family so we'll have some balance in our marriage.

Physical challenge inspires the 3 peopld, therefore sports play a major role. The 3 vibration is blunt of speech, candid, . There is a genuine love for animals and a tendency to defend the underdog. There's a marked indifference to family ties, and marriage works only when the freedom is total.The 3 vebration is associated with tests of physical strength , gambling, and taking a chance, wheather at the casinos or on the floor of the stock market. They willl take a chance on just about anything.

Sports play NO role at all in my life. From the earliest age I detested sports and wanted nothing to do with them. Because of my size, people always *assumed* I was a jock so tried to pigeon-hole me. They always were (and still are) surprised to find I'm the complete opposite of what they assumed.

Also, I'm a complete wus when it comes to taking chances. I prefer to do things safe and I realized a long time ago that I would never be wealthy since I don't take the risks necessary for that kind of success. I don't go to casinos or play the stock market, either. My thinking on that is: a fool and his money are soon parted. Why squander away hard earned money on such foolish endeavors.

All in all an interesting read - and I'd say your reading was at least 50/50 in accuracy. :-)

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

Years ago, when I was travelling alot for work, I'd go to alot of bookstores when I wasn't working. I was especially interested in spirituality, psychic research etc. I went to a place in Canton OH called the Institute Of Psychic Research or something like that. They had a "psychic fair" one weekend and I went and had, among other things, a numerology reading done. It was almost spooky because she was right on.

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

You folks have me taking my book on ancient religeons off the shelf again. This thread has been great.

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2001

Hey Sheri, I have deducted from my book that it is OK to reduce numbers for single birth numbers, do you believe this to be so?

The book that I have been using is based on the calculations of the Chaldean and Kabata systems, it is by Linda Goodman, I tried a few different methods before I tried this one, I have found it to be the most amazing plus Jane presents it in such an unscientific way which is easy for me to understand.

Jim, don't forget that your single birth number is in sharp contrast with your basic Cancer nature, that is why if you jump up and say "Come on honey lets take a trip," Ruth will think that you have gone crazy. When we have sun signs that are in contrast with our birth numbers it means that we have little hidden desires, wishes, urges, that don't come out all the time. There is an element of surprize in our nature, we are not easy to predict. Jim I thought it was interesting that, my Jims, birthday was 2 days before yours, thus he is a Cancer too. Oh and you know that blue globe you got for your yard, it sounds just like ours, Colbolt blue and see through. Nothing like the old mirrow kind. I think they are magical, don't you?

Kirk, You are a four person too, just like Marcia, Denise and I, Kirk as a Virgo your sun sign is also in sharp contrast to this four vibration. Look above where I did the four stuff.

Sheri, my page 31 is missing so I can't do Kirks compound number,would you be able to help with that?

Tren

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

Dianne Willow, Hey girl Your compound birth number being 25, means that you are betowed with spiritual wisdom gained through careful observation of people and things, and worldly sucess by learning through experiance. It's strenghts come from overcoming disappointments in early life and possessing the rare quality of learning from past misstakes. The judgment is excellent.

Your single birth number is 7, this vibration can be used to balance your basic sum sign Virgo, Seven People are spiritual, senpathedic, and mysterious. Seven is a number of illusion, delusion, sometimes deception, but also of healing and miracles and faith. and dreams that come true. Dianne Polly was a seven so you can go up and find the post where I did Polly to find out more about seven people.Tren

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

Jim, don't forget that your single birth number is in sharp contrast with your basic Cancer nature, that is why if you jump up and say "Come on honey lets take a trip," Ruth will think that you have gone crazy. When we have sun signs that are in contrast with our birth numbers it means that we have little hidden desires, wishes, urges, that don't come out all the time. There is an element of surprize in our nature, we are not easy to predict.

Ya know... come to think of it, I did say something to Ruth late last year about taking a cruise this coming winter. We never went on a honeymoon when we got married all those years ago and I thought it would maybe be nice to do something now (when we can better afford it). Ruth WAS pretty surprised at my mentioning a cruise... we haven't talked much about it now so I don't know if it will happen this winter but it's interesting that you made mention of this sort of thing, Tren.

Jim I thought it was interesting that, my Jims birthday was 2 days before yours, thus he is a Cancer too.

I'd be curious to know if he and I are much alike... And I hope he had a happy birthday, too.

Oh and you know that blue globe you got for your yard, it sounds just like ours, Colbolt blue and see through. Nothing like the old mirrow kind. I think they are magical, don't you?

Yeah, I really love it - it really adds something to the garden. I want to start adding more garden art to our flower gardens now. :-)

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

I can't do one more birth number! burned out! Hey Denise, you got a book don't ya, look Renee up will ya, somebody! Sheri! Jay Blair did you round up your books yet. If somebody else don't do one soon, I'll be back. But hey, you just gotta go buy a book! LInda Goodmen makes it easy for right brained people but some of you more left brained people might like a different intreperter. The different numbers she talks about and the magical things they can do are awesome. I think it is all just part of the whole way that the creator worked everything out in a mathematical way .

Sometimes the things that you read about people that you know can blow you away.

Jim you and my Jim do seem alot alike. You remind me of him. He is like a foundation and I am the water that trinkles over it in the rain. Hm, that doesn't make since but the only way that I can think of describe it. Jim is very stable, dependable,predictable,organized,and responsible. I am almost the complete opposite of these things, so we really balance each other, and sometimes can drive each other a little crazy. But it absolutely feels right, we are at home with each other.

You mentioned being a home body, and Jim is too, he is content to be here taking care of things. That is where he wants to be. I feel bad that he has to drive off to work in the big city. The perfect life would be if we could just "be here",together. my Jim does things in a calculated, scientific sort of way. He talks on his band radio with his brother on sunday nights, us girls can hear the beep beep beeps of the moris code coming up from the basement.( They even made up their own secret code so if the world system ever breaks down, they will be able to communicate) JIm was in the Navy for some time, traveled the world,{ I love listening to the stories that he has of these far off places that I have never known) then he worked for the goverment out on some island called Quadulan? or something like that, They searched him out about 4 years ago, right about the time that we were gonna get married,and wanted him to come back and work on some new project that they were excited about. We thought about it , we would have had to sign a 7 year contract, then from the money we had made there would have been set for life, but We were wanting to get a little land and make things grow,and Jim said that the only things that gew on this island was reeds, palm trees and sand. If we had gone there, I soppose I might be sipping on a Pinacoloda right now or learning how to make reed baskets off of the natives.

But we stayed and Jim has been putting his wonderful brain to work, creating our gardens, little greenhouse, cistern system,compost piles,chicken tractors, broody bens, well you know all those things ya gotta make on the homestead. Before we met,JIm had school credit from the Navy and he decided to take Fish and Hatch. at Hocking College which is where I decided to go and take Nature Intrepretation, Well we both moved into this little college town and guess who we had for neighbors, that's right each other. Jim was very quiet and very laid back and seemed so serious. We got to know each other very slowly, at first I didnt even think of him as boyfriend material, he just wasn't the type that I usually went for, but I have since learned that I was falling for the wrong types.! That little wild streak that I was so attracted to only brought hardships.

Jim got his degree but is not working in it, he went to work for Lucent, he is a tester for the little electronic boxes that are in those big cell phone towers. You have probably heard about Lucent in the news lately. Not sure if Jim will have a job tomorrow or not. JIms favorite book is The Hobbit, he loves Star WAr Movies, he loves to read Gene Logston books . He likes to wear Maroon or navy blue tshirts with a picture on them of Einstein making a funny face. Jim is the kind of person that believes in doing the right thing or doing the thing right,no matter now inconvenient or how much work it might be.Jim was impressed with your librairy of books Jim and hears about all you people on here, guess at least I'm not telling him about soap oprahs,when he comes home, huh! Tren

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

Denise, Yah! Those quant little places, We found one the other evening named Brenda Sue's Country Diner. We have driven by and I allways wanted to go back and visit. I told my Mom and she said,"You mean that run down little building at that intersection, why I wouldn't even have thought of going in there!" I laughed yah, it is run down and old looking, but there was just something about that sign, BRenda Sue's country diner, which made me want to go check it out.

So, Friday evening it was so hot and the last thing that I wanted to do was cook so I said Lets go out to eat, Jim ,someplace with a air counditioner! Well we set off for this place, not even thinking that Country Brenda's wouldn't even have an air conditioner, but they didn't! But too late, we were already there, so in we went.

And I downright enjoyed myself! They had perch, all you could eat for 5 dollors and there were fellows and gals in there playing guiltars, and harmonicas, and banjo! They played all those old songs, that always make me cry! They EVEN played my favorite,I WALK Through The Garden Alone! The people were plain,simple perhaps even poor, but those old cracked unadored concrete walls had so much more to give then any Olive GArden , Chi'Chi's or Holiday Inn.

grinTRen

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

Hey Tren: You mention " Chaldean and Kabata" Do you mean Kaballah?

Also, when ya'll get some time

John Kenneth Leake Jr. DOB 8/20/45

I don't know if the Jr is relevant or not because I guess it goes away when Sr dies.

Thanks

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

OK Renee I looked you up and NO Fair! I want your numbers!

Your birth number of 24 represents Love ,Money, Creativity.What else do you need! You were born on the most fortunate day! With this number you have great chances of being lucky in love, and lucky with money! They will just come to you. This life is your Karmic award for the lessons that you have already learned. Those in power will be available to assist you. The only warning to peopple of the 24 vibration is to be careful of self indulgence and of becoming careless of spiritual values because of the ease of afflueance in which you become used to. You are very attractive to the opposite sex and blessed with good health. Your only warning is to not overindulge, Gee I would!

Renee, your single birth sign of 6 indicates that others will be magnetically attracted to you. You are greatly loved by friends and associates. You are a romantic, with a strong sentimental streak. You have a love for art and music.You love nice homes, tasteful furnishings , pastel colors, and harmony in your surroundings. You make friends easily, like to make people happy, can not abide discord, arguments, and unpleasentness. Can be extreamly jeoulous. Money will often come to you without effort. Are deeply fond of nature, and spending time alone with nature can sooth you. You shrink form loud people. Ugliness is offensive to you. If you have strong feelings about something, you will let them be known.Like to debate, and usually win, because of your wonderful logic and great smile.

Gee somr people have it all! grinTren

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

Well JOhn, the 26th was not the best day to be born on, but my birth date wasn't either and thus I have learned that we get our numbers for reasons beyond our comprehension. The thing that we are to do in this case is "Our best", we have lessons to learn and we are learning them sometimes very quickly to make up for time that we have lost.

It is important for a 26 person to stabalize an income, save money, invest in the future, be generous with others, especially those that you see in need, but don't forget yourselve, and build a future for yourselve. You need a solid foundation. Don't waste time in other peoples ideas, focus on your own.

You contain a unique kind of power, which comes from your unselfish heart and your compassion for others. You can be very helpful to others but they are seldom helpful to you. You will experiance bad advice, unhappy partnerships. You should not listen to the ideas of others but should follow your own advice. Listen to your intuition, your hunches, your heart. This is hard for you because you are full of contradictions. Go with the thought that gives you the most feeling.

You posess a very deep and intense nature and great inner strength.You will most likely play a major role in this life drama. You could be an instrument of fate in anothers life. You will stick with what you believe relentlessly. You will make many loving friends in this life, and also many eneimies.

John your single birth number of 8 thankfully is in sharp contrast with your Leo birth sign. Your Leo birh sign will help you handle the spirel of the 4's and 8's that your birth date of 26 placed in you in.

You will get younger looking , and younger acting ,as you get older. As you will relax into life. You will learn that pursuing happiness is not a sin. You most likely have a subtle, never obvious sence of humor. You excel at anything that requires patience and intelligent deduction.

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

John I am interested in looking up your birth name, I would hope to see that there are no , more 4's or 8's to overburden you. When letters addressed to you end up on your table, how are they addressed.? Are they addressed John Leake, or John Leake Jr. or what do the majority of them read? It is the vibration that is getting thrown out there the most often, the one that is repeated over and over that carries the importance. Jr. has bearing on who you are now, Sr. will change your name,then you will change.

It is Chaldean-Hebrew Kabala Numerical Alphabet.

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

Sorry, I couldn't help you Trendle. My information is sketchy compared to yours. I'm just a dabbler.

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

Tren: Most of the mail comes to John Leake, never with the Jr, sometimes, but rarely, with the middle initial K.

I almost hate to "trade in" the 26 cause it sounded pretty good to me but thats when I posted the mssg. The Date Of Birth is 8/20/45

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

I am sure that if I just keep reading this long enough I WILL figure out what you guys are all talking about. I know I will, I know I will, I think I can.........................??????????????

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

Trennie: Its always a gift when someone talks about themselves and their relationships. Thank you I enjoyed hearing about you and Jim.....Love ya....Kirk

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

John, Ohhhhh No! Gotta do that over! Well maybe it will be better.

-- Anonymous, July 28, 2001

Kirk, How very sweet of you! I sure do let it all out here sometimes, bet you all would never believe that I am pretty quiet in real life. Maybe thats why it happens, in real life , I am everyones listener. I really don't get to tell my stroys too often, people don't listen .People don't want to listen, they want to talk. So I let them. But here, no one can interupt me, I can just let it all out! Kirk, thanks for being the listener, and thanks for being you,You are such a bright spot on this forum. Love right back, Tren

-- Anonymous, July 28, 2001

Dianne, Dianne please don't feel frustrated, you just need to stop at a used book store and browse around in the mystical section, there you will find some numerology book. find the one that looks interesting to you, one that is readable. In it's pages you will find a numerical Alphabet, my book has the Chadean-Hebrew Kabala one in it. Each letter in the alphabet has a corresponding number. And all you do is see what number each letter gets, then add them up.There are rules and regulations that arn't too hard to understand. A person could really study it tho. like Sherri and it gets deeper and deeper,:Love Tren

-- Anonymous, July 28, 2001