Did you read the (shame on you post) on CS? What a freaking mess huh? ...Kirk

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Answers

Yep, a BIG mess. Wasn't there a full moon recently? :-/

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I just finished posting in response to it. Maybe I shouldn't have even flexed my fingers and said anything, but once again, it really annoyed me that people were talking about how they couldn't say or they'd be slandering (AFTER they'd already been casting denegration on the poster) and #@!#ing about fake e-mail addresses and using them themselves. They're going to get the forum shut down yet at this rate.

I would rather give the benefit of the doubt. I can't see HOW any person would make a profit off faking a post like that, it'd pointless. I was astounded at the responses and accusations let fly. If I've got egg on my face and look stupid, so what? Makes you wonder why so many people are starching their own underwear.

And then, if this really IS a real person (and she sounds a whole lot like my friends who just sold their farm market, Neil and 'Net, so that makes me a tad vexed at the pettiness displayed), and they get treated like this, man, then there really IS no point in trying to save Countryside.

Pity, but it makes me pretty disgusted. Freaking mess indeed.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I read the big intro post yesterday, and thought to myself,"Wow, I'm pretty lazy compared to her!" Then as I continued down and saw the rest I didn't really know what to think. I just left it alone as I don't know one way or the other. Now I am really confused. HOW could the ones who say they KNOW really know?? And what in the blue blazes does Kentucky have to do with it?? Someone enlighten me, as I have no idea what any of them are talking about.

Do not let anything like this upset you in any way whatsoever. You know, life is too short, there are endless good things to focus on. On these forums we can tell the truth, speak our minds and maybe be a little curious, but don't let it upset you, it's not worth it.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

hey julie, I sure hope you didn't think my response over there was petty and small??? I was really just trying to lighten the mood. Didn't work I guess, oh well. I had some old folks that were my inspiration so I sure wouldn't trash those people as fakes..........they did seem just a tad too perfect???

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Yes, they did seem perfect, so did my grandparents. At 85 I still couldn't keep up with my grandomther (Iwas 28) I don't know if they were real or not but I like to think I could do at least some of that stuff when I am old. I can't imagine sitting around. Joanie

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

OK, I just finished reading both posts over at CS and I'm royally pissed! Cindy, the Kentucky thing is that some idiot is claiming that our Sharon is making fake posts on CS to stir up trouble. Can someone please send me Dave Belanger's email address? I've never complained to him before but this is really too much!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well, Sherri, don't get too riled, they are just jealous. There's a third one now, and I am waiting for Mitch's apology to BTS. You all ready for that password now?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I don't know about you guys, but I'm ROFLMAO! Who the hell cares???? (except for the insinuation about Sharon, of course!) SHEESH!!!!!

How many people does it take to get a life? One!....If that person wants to get one!!!

Doesn't anyone over there have any chores to do?!

;-)

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

maybe you kids should have a password that keeps you on this BB only. Seems you keep running over to other places than coming back here to whine about the folks on 'em.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

This just keeps getting funnier all the time!!!! What have we got that someone wants so bad and for some reason feels that they can't get?????? Who ever you are dear heart........you keep me in stitches!!!! Love and blessings and please, get a life and go do your chores.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I think I'm missing something. There are THREE threads at CS about this? Where does Mitch come into this?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Dang, I knew that all those mice I killed while doing my master's thesis research would come back to haunt me some day! ;-P

Mr Mouse, you do make a good point. Normally I wouldn't pay much mind to what's going on, but I have a very strong sense of family and of honor, so anyone saying bad things about my family gets me hopping.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Okay, nevermind, I bet it was the "A lot of mileage for a few keystrokes". It's been deleted. The others may soon follow. Ken will probably make some sort of statement sooner or later. Geez, what a thing to wake up to! Trolls popping up everywhere.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Yeah Diane, Mr. Mouse is very confused. I think he's gotten his bookmarks all messed up. He dosen't remember that allot of us have been on CS for a long time, and never left. And now Mitch's post is gone, I was soooo looking forward to that apology! Way to go Girlie, we got him at the same time!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Yeah Joy, I hope they delete all of them. It's just not nice accusing and naming names like that. I feel protective of the people here too.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well, all this hit me like a slap in the face this morning. It suddenly occurred to me, just now, that Gladys and Walt may be one and the same as "No" and have engineered this whole thing to try to make trouble for Sharon and drive her off entirely.

Sharon, can you let us know how this is affecting you? You can email me privately if you want.

Now, I GOTTA GO. Stuff to do and a dentist's appt. in 2 hours.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I know, I know, Sheepish, I hear what you're saying. But sometimes it just FEELS GOOD defending the Castle! Sound the bugles! Get them horses ready! Wrap yourself in aluminum foil! (calvary blast insert here) Charge!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well folks I've just about had it with the Internet! I check in this a.m. and see over at CS that someone is not only accusing sharon of being the troublemaker, but they're bringing my name in as well.

Anybody want to buy a slightly used Internet forum? It's going real cheap. Seller is highly motivated and willing to finance.

Anyway, I challenged the anonymous poster to put up or shut up. But I doubt if I'll hear from him/her.

All this shit makes me want to quit the Internet permanently and become a technology-hating Luddite and a people-hating misanthrope. What a mess... :-(

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I don't Know if Gladys and Walt are for real or not. Does it matter? The post seemed harmless enough to me, and in return she got all kinds of nasty accusations. I've met enough old folks like that to now that they really do exist! If we don't know one way or the other, why not give her the benefit of the doubt?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Rebekah,

I'm dumbfounded by your post. You don't think it matters when an anonymous poster accuses sharon of being the troublemaker?!?!?!?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Wow! I'm really "out of the loop" here. After reading this post, I think I'll go check out CS. Haven't been there for quite sometime now. When I do get a chance to fire up my webtv I come right here. There just seems to be way too much strife over there. Maybe it's not worth the eyestrain to go and read CS.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

What Rebekah said entirely. Where did this anomosity towards a perfectly innocent post come from? If there's a set-up to it, it's a red herring in the reverse. I don't know if Gladys and Walt really exist...what does it matter? If they are Over-achievers, again, so what? It seemed suspicious to me that just as soon as this post came up, someone was complaining about the time clock not being what they would expect and next thing you know, everyone and their pet cat are jumping on the band wagon to kick sand in the eyes of the poster.

I'm not including you in there, Diane. Humor is just fine, but if you look in the archives under similar introduction posts, it's all "Hi, welcome aboard, so glad to have you" right down the line. Now all of a sudden there is name calling and provocation. What started that? People logged in without so much as a 'glad to meet you' to the poster who was perfectly courteous and just started taking cheap shots. I'm gonna go over and sit with Jim a while now and just discuss Triffids.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Jim, I can think of nothing that this or these trouble makers would like better than to disrupt this forum. I think that is about as obvious as it comes. Please, don't dispair, and Rebekah I like you a lot but this time I think for sure you are missing the point. I hope Jim my attempt at humor over there didn't offend anyone, but this has gotten so rediculous I think we all need to just laugh and feel sorry for the crazys and go on about our stuff here with some fun and joy. sharon is a really big girl and I am sure she can take care of herself with all of us behind her loving her. Whoever the person is that is so jealous of her and her position here with us can just stew in their juices and go get a life. You and Ken need to get together and compare URL's (is that what you call them) I am sure, since he or Dave deleted Mitch's rediculous post, that he would be willing. And anyway, if it was our sharon, which I don't believe it was, what is the big problem anyway?? It was a really cute story, if it was just a story, and there sure have been a lot of stories over there in the past. If it is really getting to you Jim, how about we just retire to a password community?? I would hate to see it happen, but I sure don't want to give up what we have.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

julie, we were posting at the same time..........can I come too??? I actually liked the post when I read it, and I read it before there was any "bad stuff". I didn't comment at the time as I was getting ready to chore. When I went back and it was loaded with the garbage I kind of went "oh my" what could this ever be about??? Personally, I really think it is about someone having problems with us here for soom reason. I am saying this, not to add fuel to a burning fire, but for informational purposes. I had told john leake that all the porn had stopped after my post about my son-in-law and this morning it, my yahoo box, was loaded with graphic junk again. David mentioned someone trying to divide us. I really am clueless as to why someone is having such a problem with this forum. This is totally open folks. Someone from anywhere is reading what we write and taking it all in. My suggestion about checking the other forums at the door still holds. Why are we doing this, letting another forum affect us here???? Didn't we start this one to avoid the shit???????? Here we are discussing sickness or not sickness on the very thing we decided to leave. I am doing it to when I said I wouldn't. Are we all crazy????

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Uh, someone want to clue me in? This is the real, one and only eccentric sharon and I don't have any idea what this is all about. Am I being blamed for posting something on CS? I haven't posted there since I supposedly bashed christians in defence of Ken & Dave back a while after the last "kick them in the teeth" episode. So what's up?

This is really too much. Geez. And people think I'm paranoid.....

Folks, I am too tired,too overwhelmed,too behind and too sick to have the time to harass people either on or off forums.If I want to give you a hard time, it will be under this email address, my old one that is now defunct but is known to people as me. Some of you have my active email address, but I don't post it here.

Yep,this is pretty much what is wrong with forums...lots and lots of oportunity for playing pretend and then blaming people like me....

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Okay, I see we're all hitting the keyboards here fast and furious. I don't think that what Rebekah meant (if she isn't here right now to explain) concerned the initial post, and not the person who started accusing by name (and STILL not offering any proof, just repeating their accusations). Maybe *I* am wrong in this assumption, but that was how it read to me. I guess you all can tell that I'm sometimes ready to wrap myself in tin foil and saddle up the pony to sally forth with Cindy too.

If it WAS a Martha Stewart style lampoon, why are so many people on CS getting starched shorts over it and reacting with hostility? I'm afraid that it may have been a Troll set-up in order to shoot down CS and are apparently going to be rubbing their hands in evil glee over causing Jim trouble to boot.

One of the guys who delivers our hay is somewhere up in his 80's...he sometimes brings along his grandsons to help unload and complains about how they can't do a lick of work (meanwhile tossing bales faster than I can keep up with either...). My great aunt finally gave up living on her own and shoveling her own snow etc., when she was around 94, the winter she broke her hip and had to go into assisted living. She was one of the pioneers of this area, came into the area in a covered wagon (no roads), towing the family milk cow on the back end of the wagon. I have a picture of her and her dog sled team taken in her youth. She and her family ran a saloon/boarding house/eatery for years (no running water), and she had three diamond rings from marriage proposals (but never married). She gardened and canned, she sewed buckskin clothing and sold it, she made THE BEST apple pie, and cooked up some pretty good sauerkraut too.

She wasn't fake either. Didn't live in the right timeframe to take advantage of the internet, but she lived to 106 (and got on national television for it). If Gladys and Walt are fictious, there are other people out there that aren't, so don't lose all faith.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I hesitate to post this, but perhaps someone could tell me why the order of the posts are being changed???

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

It's my fault, diane.

I'm trying to lock the forum down but I'm having trouble.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

oh, thanks jim, I was getting a little paranoid there.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

o.k., here I am again. This is really getting obsessive again. I was out in the garden about to start pickin peas and it entered my head, sharon said she was too sick. What does that mean sharon??? You didn't answer my e-mail......are you going to be alright??? I hope that you know I would NEVER intentionally hurt you here or on the other forum. I was just trying to make a funny and lighten the killer mood. Please let me know you are ok??? and jim.....what does locking the forum down mean????

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I agree with Diane. Someone is trying to cause consternation and hoping we'll shut down. The first "Glady & Walt" post, superfarmwoman stuff, if it's a joke, was fairly harmless. Accusing Sharon is despicable, but when do you expect from a TROLL except despicable behavior?

Let's see if the coward will answer Jim's challenge for proof. My bet is on WILL NOT.

Sharon, I hope you're feeling better soon!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Mitch has apologized: LINK

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well, I guess I wasn't the only one who had a sudden moment of 'wait a second...' either.

I was off doing chores and that's when it hit me too what Sharon said about being sick. I know you're a fairly private sort of person Sharon, but I hope it's nothing serious and that you're on the mend. How do I pour chicken soup into this thing?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I find that thick skin helps when using internet. If someone says something bad about me or a friend I let it go with a lol or a ). I do not care. Humor helps to make a good life. I do not let bad drivers on the road get me upset (this did take some practice). I answer a rude person with a smile or chuckle. I had bad neighbors that I continued to treat neighborly. Over a period of time I won them over. I will not let someone on the internet mess up my day. )

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I refuse to get swpet up in this chaos. Let's just ignore this troublemaker. I read a quote today that may apply:

Angels fly because they take themselves lightly, Alan Watts

I give this person no serious consideration whatsoever!

OBTW, what does "locking down the forum" mean? Just curious.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well, I tryed to get on here to post to mitch, but it asked for a password. When I went to my yahoo box I could come in through the back door. I have NOT disabled my cookies. What is going on????

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I just got back from lunch and I can't get into the forum. I went to the yggdrasill website and got in that way, but I can't get in through the front door.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Jim, I know you were angry but I really did think we were all in this together. I really am clueless here. Hugs and love if we don't meet again.............diane

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I didn't have any problem getting here.I got here as I usually do.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Denise, how do you usually get in here????

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Diane, I clicked on my bookmark that says Beyond the Sidewalks top level. The new question page comes up. The address at the top of that page is: http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=Beyond% 20the%20Sidewalks Does that help?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Please don't anybody get upset or worried. Diane, everything is ok. I think we are going to need a password if we are going to get back to the way we usually are, and keep this place. It's no big deal, just let Jim play around a little bit, and everyone just be calm. We have several members here who won't feel comfortable if we keep getting hit on like this. I vote in favor of a password, I don't want to loose all of you now. I will be heartbroken.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well it's a shame that it's maybe come to that. I can handle it however you all decide it should be. I hope I get a password though!!!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Thank you Denise, at this point, we ALL need to stick by Jim and let him do what he needs to do.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Well...now I have gone over and read what was over on CS and all I can say right now is ...wow.

Apparently my tongue in cheek ficticious introduction here on Beyond created quite a stir among those that do spy on us over here. Guess I hit a nerve.

I'll have Nick read all this when he can.I'll post on CS sometime later concerning that slander.I just picked some flowers I need to bunch up,I'm hungry and thirsty and Nick just got back with groceries.

My health problems are very personal.I've discussed them with a few people here,so they know. It is ongoing. I'll live,just not pleasantly for a while.Thanks for your concern.I didn't mean to imply that I'm deathly ill or anything. Just overwhelmed with everything.

Please show your concern to Jim as well.He has been very sick. He just doesn't show it. And it looks like this is the last straw. When you don't feel good,you just don't have the fight in you.

It's been unbelievable.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Ok maybe I get it.It's like a Friday the 13th joke, right? It's gotta be. Well,I wish the cute little trolls would wait till my birthday to surprise me like that. More appropriate,I would say. Jim,hang in there,guy. You are the best. Let this one ride. I'll say my piece over there on CS,later on.

Thanks all of you for sticking up for me.

Too weird,I tell you.

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

o.k. Cindy, I guess I am really wondering how all these people that you hardly ever see post are here and we aren't??? How are they getting here?? I came in on a link from a post from you on my thread the first time cause I though something was broken. Jim..........you have my total support friend. I DIDN't know you were having heath problems, pass words are fine with me. You know I like a small group anyway. love yah!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Oh, boy!!! The "Gladys and Walt" post on CSF is a marvelous piece of fiction, for sure! I wish I was creative enough to think of it! And also for sure, Mr. No is Joel ( villian music over) in my opinion, he has a personal vendeta against poor Sharon, and anyone who vociferously disagrees with him, personally I love to rattle his cage, as it is soooo easy to do!!!

Poor Jim, don't take all of the name calling and mud slinging so personally from the CSF people, it is what they revert to when the crap gets deep and they don't know how to handle it, they obviously havn't figured out that the whole post was an INTELLIGENCE TEST and they blatantly FAILED BIG TIME !!! This makes them all the more mad, being made a fool of! The part of the story where she decribes her 4 mile driveway on a 10 acre piece of property was the first clue, and there were ,any others if you missed that one.

I'm like Sheepish, have been ROTFLMAO all morning and still am this afternoon, remember, this was a TEST, and a TEST only, nothing PERSONAL despite Mr. No's name calling and nastiness!!!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Man, I go in to peacefully snooze away the afternoon and all hell breaks loose!! Sharon honeybun, if they don't have balls enough to put their name on the slanderous post, that says a whole lot more about them than the accusations they're hurling at you. Damn - off to buy a new roll of tin foil; don't got no pony though - reckon I'll just have to sic mah dawg on 'em!

Jim Bob, you just do whatever you need to do; we're behind you all the way!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

o.k.............got in with password........jim is working on some things and we should all be o.k. in a while. Just put on your ruby slippers and repeat after me........there's no place like home......there's no place like home.............there's no place like home. God I love you guys!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Yes, this might be a good idea after all, Jim, at least we KNOW that the folks here are of "good intention"!!! As diane so aptly put it, there is no place like home, on BTS!!!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I'm here, but I gotta go milk my goats! See ya in a bit.

.....there's no place like home

.....there's no place like home

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

I'm in!! I made it!!!!! It's good to see you all:D it's too bad it turned out this way but I think it will save us all much grief in the long run. Sharon, I would have never believed it for a minute. I bet it is Joel. Jim, I hope you feel better soon.

I'nm sooo glad I can find you all again!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

(Not exactly still ROFLMAO... but chuckling from time to time....certainly not over name calling, however.)

Okay, if you think we have problems, go surf over at Unk's Wild Wild West (on LUSENET, too.) You will count your blessings. That's one reason why I find this so funny! Compared to a lot of places on the web, we are practically VICTORIAN in our manners! Even old CS is too.

btw, there have been many problems on other forums. It apparently is sport to try to wreck them. I have watched a few go down. It ain't pretty. Folks post under other folks' addys and stir up major trouble. It is ridiculous.

Now, *really* off to do chores! The garden is looking good!

Missed you there for a moment! Whew!

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

Wow!! Very much to my surprise after dinner I checked my e-mail. Only 60 or so messages! Clicked to BTS to see what the fuss was...LOCKED OUT...Gee did I miss anything? Hee hee! Add my name to the list who love and support everyone on the forum. Sorry Jim and Sharon. This is crazy.....Kirk

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

This is too weird, just after all the discussion on the "What's wrong..." thread about password protection! I'll resist the urge to look at Countryside, I'm sure I'll feel better for staying here.

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2001

Sheepish - I am ROTFLMAO!!! Thanks so much for pointing out the Unk's Wild, Wild West forum - I was laughing so hard, Hubby came in to see what the heck was going on!! The screen names themselves are hilarious! Ladies and Gentlemen, I hearby award us all the beautiful pink Miss Congeniality ribbon - pat, pat, pat - man are we nice!!

-- Anonymous, July 15, 2001