[post deleted on 06/25/2001]

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

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Doing a reverse DNS now: 206.156.178.92 maps to ... ilcrvl91.madisontelco.com

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

Jim, sweety, just delete them. These people are not going to be happy until they have ruined the forums for everyone who doesn't agree with them. I said it before and I will say it again, there are going to be a LOT of surprised people someday who will not know the Savior when he sits down next to them.

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

diane: I'm sorry but I'm not going to delete their post right now because I need it as proof for the abuse department of their ISP.

This person posted at around 8:00 am CDT so it should be fairly easy for Madison Telco to figure out who it is.

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

This is from the June 20th post by the same troll on the "Spiritual thought" thread:

Doing a reverse DNS now: 206.156.178.3 maps to ... ilcrvl02.madisontelco.com (June 20th)

As you can see, the posts are coming from the same ISP. It also shows that the person is using a dial-up account and is logging in to a different modem each time they connect to the Interent.

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

Madison, Wisconsin? Madison, Ohio? That's pretty cool Jim, aka..007

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

UPDATE: I just sent off a detailed email to the abuse dept. of madisontelco.com. Pretty much all we can do now is wait to see what they'll do about the problem. I'll keep you all informed as to what ultimately happens with this...

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

Way to go Super-sleuth Jimmy! Since their thread title indicates they're ready to come out of the closet (a value I hold dear) , lets help em do it! It's the neighborly thing I do I reckon!

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

Please delete it Jim! It's not illegel, immoral, profane or anything. It's probably not against the service rules of the provider. It's just here to harass us and divide us. You set the rules, you get to choose what belongs and what does not. I look at the rules, and this does not!

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

Madisontelco is in Illinois. www.madisontelco.com

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Hmm, so who would we know from CS that resides in Illinois?

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Hmmm - need another hint? If it's anything like mine, it's named after the county it's in. Madison County is in So. Illinois.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Out and proud of it! Errrr....that's NOT what they mean, is it?

(waving rainbow flag in retreat)......

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Please delete it Jim! It's not illegal, immoral, profane or anything. It's probably not against the service rules of the provider. It's just here to harass us and divide us. You set the rules, you get to choose what belongs and what does not. I look at the rules, and this does not!

I hear what you're saying, David. But the rules also mention that I'd contact the offender's ISP - which I'm attempting to do - I wanted to leave the post up as proof for them. I haven't heard back from them yet and it's possible I may *never* hear from them. If that ends up being the case then my job as moderator may become more difficult as I'll have lost quite a bit of leverage in dealing with troublemakers. As to this particular case, I'm going to wait until Monday and if I don't hear back from Madison Telco by then, I'll delete the post.

In a related matter, I've been thinking lately that I may need to ask for volunteers to co-moderate the forum with me. We've had over 4000 posts to this forum since April 1st, 2001 (and we're not even three months old yet!). We've been rocketing up the "active forums" list and we're starting to catch up to other forums here on Greenspun that have been around a LOT longer than us. With the steady stream of newcomers, I think it's gonna get to the point real soon where I won't be able to manage this forum alone - especially if we have trolls start popping in here to cause trouble.

I'm thinking two or three people could co-moderate the forum with me. With three or four of us doing the job there shouldn't be much work in managing the forum. Co-moderators would have full access rights to the password-protected administrative section and could help me deal with troublemakers (by deleting their posts) as well as a few of the other moderator duties such as creating new thread categories, making sure newbies are welcomed and aware of the rules & guidelines of the forum, etc.

That's about all I'm gonna say on this for now as I don't have a lot of time today to devote to this train of thought. If any of you forum regulars are interested in becoming a co-moderator please send me an email and we'll go from there...

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Madison Co. Illinois is in SW Illinois about 40 miles NE of ST. Louis. Wrong side of the state for who you may have been thinking of. Not his style anyway. No, it's just somebody who wrongly thinks that tossing out scripture in anger may make a difference.

Misguided and mislead. Can't even say his/her hearts in the right place. Not even sure it's a Christian at all. Real Christians don't thump. Please be patient. After the Broo Haa Haa settles down at CS, everything will groove into a sense of normalacy again - until the next BS hits the fan anyway.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Hey Folks! Just thought I'd check in so ya'll would know my addy and dial up stuff. Don't rightly know WHERE Madison county is. I'm in Richland County about 100 miles east of St. Louis and about 30 miles west of Vincennes on us50. My ISP is PCINETWORK in Noble. Owned and run by Shawn Williams. No secrets here! Contrary to what some may paint me as--it's certainly not a troublemaker. If ya'll want to know about me contace me personally. I'll not lie and the email addy is accurate. Thanks--I'll not tread on your turf anymore. ole hoot. Luke 6:31

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

Oh shoot!! And I was having so much fun playing detective too :D Yes, I was thinking it was Hoot gone crazy :) Sorry I thought it. It didn't seem like a Hoot thing but after all the crazy deleting and stuff over at CS, I just didn't know what to think with it being Illinois. Personally I'm glad you hopped over here to clear things up. Thanks!

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

Hey Hoot,

You aren't treading on anyones turf, you are as welcome as any of the rest of us who follow the rules! Peace - Kim

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

John: I agree that this may not be a Christian that's causing the trouble - my hunch is that it's not. Some people just like to start trouble and then sit back to watch the sparks fly.

Hoot: I never thought this person was you. It could be a youngster that's out on summer vacation from school and has way too much time on their hands. But thanks for posting here to assure everyone, I appreciate it.

BTW, I'm in full agreement with what kim said to you.

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

Thanks Jim and Kim.

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

Glad to hear it wasn't hoot; had hoped he wouldn't stoop that low.

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001