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I was just wondering if there is a way to emulate the classic lazergames like Space Ace, Dragons Lair,Astron BeltI4m not got at the technical matters if emulators, and as I have never seen any of those games emulated i suppose those games are hard or maybe impossible to emulate.
Anyone who knows??
I think i have seen the Space Ace rom dumped on some site somewhere(i may be wrong) but never any emulator that claims to emulate the game..
Regards
QRS
-- QRS (qrs@telia.com), April 11, 2000
QRS,Dragons Lair, and Space Ace are available on DvD. I think you can order them from somewhere on the following URL:
http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/
Slan, ALEX
-- Alex Weir (alexweir@indigo.ie), April 11, 2000.
They seem to already be emulated! Unfortunately it looks like you need the original discs and a laser disc player too. Try: http://www.xmission.com/~redflame/daphne/
-- Ian Sutton (suttoni@hotmail.com), April 11, 2000.
Dragons Lair is a wip driver in Mame.
-- *** (Anon@***.***), April 12, 2000.
Well, the fact is: you can buy the 3 games (Drag's Lair 1 + 2 and Space Ace) at www.digitalleisure.com; I did (it isn't a bad price, you know) and I'm quite satisfied. The games are great played in a *SMALL* window; if you want to play them in full screen mode... well, you asked for it... obviously I refer to the CD-ROM version. Digital Leisure has already released the DVD versions but I can't tell anything, I just can suppose the quality should be much greater. The roms you saw are EROMS (I don't know what the hell they are but so it is written in the notes in the zipped file) for Pioneer and LDV 1000 laser players; in fact they are just 40 K each...
-- Vaz (mrvaz@inwind.it), April 12, 2000.
I tried this emulator called winUAE /dos uae, it emulates amiga homesystem. Maybe those space ace roms were for it. I could only get intro to work. Game is divided into several "disks" and I couldn't figure out how to change them to start the game. Well, graphics are really CRAPhics so it doesn't matter. Now have to look if digitalleisure sells those CDs to Europe, bye
-- Tommi (tiihoto@hotmail.com), April 13, 2000.
Yes they do, the Dragon's Lair Deluxe Pack (DL 1 + 2 & Space Ace) it's about 50 US $. Don't know anything about the DVD version.
-- Vaz (mrvaz@inwind.it), April 13, 2000.
i have recently purchased space ace, dragons layer and dragons layer ii time warp on dvd video for £17.99 each from mvc record store
-- scott lewis (scottlewis@ntlworld.com), January 30, 2001.
So how do the dvds play? are they arcade realistic? are they just movies you can't interact with? are they playable only via computer or can you play them with any dvd player?
-- Chad (churritz@cts.com), January 30, 2001.
Okay guys, Digital Leisure, http://www.digitalleisure.com (or is it www.digitaleisure.com ? whichever one works) has released several versions of Dragon's Lair.The first one was on CD-ROM, which you can get it's called the "Deluxe Pack" was released some time ago. From what I've read the quality is crap, but it's cheap. This pack includes Dragon's Lair, DL II: Time Warp and Space Ace.
Then they released two versions of each of those titles for DVD.
For each title there is a "DVD-VIDEO" and a "DVD-ROM" version. The DVD-Video will work on a DVD player or a DVD-Rom on a PC (not Mac) running Win95/98, I believe you can download patches from the official site if it doesn't work in ME, 2000 or NT.
According to what I've read (I can't say too much because I haven't played the original arcade, but this is what hardcore fans tell me)
The DVD-VIDEO version leaves out many scenes from the arcade, and there are LONG pauses (almost a full second I think) and it doesnt' work on some DVD players. But then they say that if you play it on a DVD-ROM drive with a good machine the pauses are less noticeably. This version also has a "Watch" feature letting you watch the whole thing as a movie, which is cool, in addition to playing it. Also there is a bit of fluff on the disc with interviews with the people who made the game (or maybe it was fans talking about the game, not sure). So there is a DVD-Video version of all three, I haven't seen them in stores, but they aren't cheap (order from DL for like 30-40 bucks each).
The DVD-ROM versions dont' feature any of the interviews or "watch" feature, but you do get ALL Of the scenes from the arcades. However the scenes are still left out of the actual game, and they are just VOB files on the disc, so you can open them up in windows and watch them, they just don't flow with the game. The DVD-ROM version runs in a window, which is big, but it's not TRUE full screen. The pauses are much smaller than on the DVD-Video version supposedly. The DVD-ROM version of Dragon's Lair contains a LOCKED version of Space Ace, that you can pay Digital Leisure to UNLOCK for you, for a cheaper price than buying Space Ace seperately.
Now from what I've been told, the arcade version BEEPED when you made a decision, whereas all the DVD disc versions show icons on the screen etc, with arrows, swords, colors to show you did it right/wrong. Also in the original arcade you had coins, and you saw the "drawbridge" scene in the demo only. In the DVD home versions you can PLAY the drawbridge apparently.
The Mame team has stated that they probably WILL NOT release the driver for Dragon's Lair and Space Ace. Why? Because it only works with the DVD-ROM version in Win95/98. What is the point of playing it if you have the DVD? Because it lets you insert coins and it includes the missing scenes (form the VOB files on the disc) and it might also randomize the scenes like the arcade (in the DVD home versions they are always the same branching order, I'm told).
Now if you download the Mame source and compile your own version, perhaps you can enable this feature, good luck getting it to work ( you need the DVD-ROM version of Dragon's Lair). Also I think it doesn't work with the UNLOCKED space ace. Could be wrong about that though.
Now there is ANOTHER emulator that recently came out called Daphne (which has its own site.. check www.arcadeathome.com for links in their emulators section or news page). Daphne is complicated because it requires you to hook your laser disc player to your PC then to your TV, and use your keyboard/gamepad/mouse to control the onscreen action. So you need TV out I think, plus you need the ACTUAL laserdisc. So get on ebay....
Daphne can also be used with an encoded MPEG-1 video of the original laserdisc, which you will have to author yourself from the original disc, unlesss you can find a copy to download (probably over a gig) or know somebody that has it. Daphne will also run with the DVD-ROM version, supposedly, in much the same way the Mame driver would.
Now in addition to these already released versions there is a game called Dragon's Lair 3D coming out, which is NOTHING like the other games. Instead of a movie, it's a third person action adventure game like you'd expect from the likes of Tomb Raider or Heretic II. I saw this at E3. It looks cool because it has the same animation effect as you'd expect, like a 3D cartoon. It's not out yet....
Now let me reiterate, this is all information fans have posted that I've taken in, I have not played any of these games yet.
Also, if you want the best port available, I WOULD WAIT A BIT. DL recently announced they would release this month a NEW CD-ROM version that includes all the removed scenes, has arcade perfect gameplay, etc and has the watch features and interviews, etc. Sounds like it's perfect, although it would be neat to be able to play it on your DVD player.
But anyway, it's for the PC, and it was supposed to come out yesterday, but check your local stores, or wait for DL to put it on their order form.
Cheers!
-- Kurgan (kurgan@jediknightii.net), October 19, 2001.
Dragons Lair(Deluxe Pack) is great, but will only work under Windows 95/98.If anybody knows of anyway to get the 3 games to work under Windows XP, then can you E-Mail me the solution.
Thanks.
-- Adam CUNDY (adam.cundy@btinternet.com), January 15, 2002.
I got daphne and the ripped laserdisc of dragon's lair (about 1GB size), it works great.
-- Berserk (none@ever.com), May 22, 2003.
Just in reply to what was said about the Dragons Lair Dvd's I bought the Dvd-video version and it has all the screens of the original arcade game. To get it to work with the Daphne emulator you need a converter called convvid2daph.exe ( http://convvid2daph.com/ ).enjoy
-- Tim Greaves (nospam_tgreaves@bigpond.net.au), May 25, 2003.
> I got daphne and the ripped laserdisc of dragon's lair > (about 1GB size), it works great. > > -- Berserk (none@ever.com), May 22, 2003.Berserk, where did you get LD imagefile? And do you have a line on an imagefile for Space Ace? Thanks for any info you can provide.
-- OldGamesFan (kilowattcommando@shaw.ca), June 06, 2003.
Here are the dumps.Only leech when you have the orginal dvd disk. !!!
Greets
(palys with daphne great)
-- Mikel Knight (none@none.com), September 30, 2003.
Hey, the latest laser disk games are available, you don't need a dvd player or laser disk player. Get Daphne, e-mail me for the rest of the info. I really recommend that you purchase any Dragon's Lair or Space Ace cds or dvds because what you are about to discover is a game that is rare and isn't being sold anymore. It's called (and you probably already played it) Cliff Hanger. High quality videos and files to make this work on Daphne, there are 80 of them and they are 20MB each, so if you are patient you can get it and also the "other" laser games, full, straight from laser cd. If you take time to get anything, get Cliff Hanger, it is much more fun!
-- GVR (aegothis@yahoo.com), December 19, 2003.
I have been getting some e-mails about where to find the images, and I have found a better source and I can list it here. The site is still faster, but I don't want to promote the downfall of it. You can find all of the laser games on eMule. Download it, set up your connection in XP (deselect firewall so you can share) and search for Cliff Hanger, Dragon's Lair, etc. Be patient, the files are 1 gig+ and take weeks to download.
-- (aegothis@yahoo.com), February 09, 2004.