I could have made a killing if I'd stayed in. Thanks Ken. So much for expert opinion...

-- Hindsight (is@20.20), March 10, 2000

Answers

Poor thing. First time you lost? Was it Decker or Gary chanting buy gold?

Shows what happens when you listen to a poster on an obscure net list.

Did it all go into preps and gold? Bet you missed Oil because before 1/1/2000, not one of the TBI types told anyone to buy oil. Fer sure, none of them were pitching it at 12/barl.

Not to worry because if the crops are poor this year think of all the money you saved on the rice and beans.

Hedge a bit with some oil? Got some gas stored in the garage? If so, you'll be just fine as you work off your inventory.

Next time remember the cliche'. Its not a "Stock Market" its a "market of stocks". In the 375 down shift of the DJI one stock on the NYSE made a new high.

-- The Shadow (shadow@knows.com), March 10, 2000.

2 Peter 3:3

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after THEIR OWN LUSTS,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

Jesus Saves.

True Enough but try to remember Moses.

Moses "invested".

-- The Shadow (shadow@knows.com), March 10, 2000.

Shadow

Before you 'invest' you must (be) 'save'(d). Jesus is the vehicle for 'saving'. All He needs are believers.

Fyi: Moses 'invested' in learning the ways of God. A virtue ALL should 'invest' in.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

BAWWWHHAAAAA! I didn't take anyone's advice when it came to investments. A lot of people did the solar panel thing and spent thousands of dollars to prepare. What's done is done and don't look back. But I bet it hurts to have to pay the IRS for penalties for cashing in the 401K's and IRA's!

-- sight of my behind (Sightofmybehind@sightofmybehinddd.xcom), March 10, 2000.

Jesus is King,

I guess the billions of Islamics are wrong... Not to mention the Buddhists...

snarlin' at the TV evangelist...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), March 10, 2000.

The Dog

Billions of Islamics & Buddhists? Hmmmm.

Well, first of all God has NEVER taken an opinion pole or survey on what god or idol humans would like to worship. He did however tell us in Exodus 20:3 "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Re: Snarlin' at the TV envangelist

God sent His only Son Jesus Christ in the flesh to save us from our sin, NOT the TV evangelist. If the TV evangelist was the savior, we and he, wouldn't need Jesus Christ like we all do.

If you look closely at the evangelists' feet the next time you catch him on TV you will find they are made of clay just like mine and yours. Jesus was the only perfect being placed on this earth in the last 2000 years.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father (God), but by me. Jesus - the only way to heaven!

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

INCREDIBLE. You can't distinguish a comment from a joke. Next you pontificate on the "God" of ISLAM and Buddha?

Your ignorance is truly widespread.

The GOD of ISLAM is the GOD OF THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. They revere both Moses and Christ as Prophets. But the ONE GOD they worship is the one and same GOD of the Judeo-Christian Faiths (most of them anyway though not yours it would seem.)

You would do well to remember another passage: "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED".

Besides, I would fear for your sould simply because you even visit a den of inquity such as this much less post on it.

Have you seen your Pastor about your addiction yet ?

-- The Shadow (shadow@knows.com), March 10, 2000.

Aw, now that was mean...!!! Why do you call this a den of iniquity, shadow? As for the 'addiction' to what? I'm gonna put the high powered flashlight on ya, if you dont apologize and EXPOSE ya...

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), March 10, 2000.

It has always amazed me that the supposed "Christians" look down their noses at everyone else. I don't suppose Mr. "I Believe In Him", that a cross or a Christmas tree or a Easter bunny is an idol. And as far as that goes, the image of "Mother Mary" would not be an idol either now would it?

Regarding "Snarlin' at the TV evangelist"... You obviously haven't been around here very long, or you would have recognized my "tag line" for what it was, a tag line.

(religious rant on)

IMHO, organized religion is the harlot of Revelations. Anyone who tells someone else how to believe, religiously speaking, is worse than the meanest criminal in a maximum security prison. Religious strife has caused more wars than any other item. I have a good, personal relationship with my creator... We speak regularly, (I speak, he/she listens) You can call him/her by whatever name you like: God, Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh, etc... but religion is a PERSONAL thing, not something you do among friends...

(religious rant off)

I am donning my flameproof overalls now, because I know I stepped on somebody's beliefs. But hey, life is rough, get used to it.

growlin' at the narrow mind...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), March 10, 2000.

Shadow..

>>The GOD of ISLAM is the GOD OF THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. ....never said differntly.

>>You would do well to remember another passage: "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED".

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

>>Besides, I would fear for your sould simply because you even visit a den of inquity such as this much less post on it.

The Pharasies said the same thing to Jesus. I'll take that as a compliment.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

>>It has always amazed me that the supposed "Christians" look down their noses at everyone else. I don't suppose Mr. "I Believe In Him", that a cross or a Christmas tree or a Easter bunny is an idol. And as far as that goes, the image of "Mother Mary" would not be an idol either now would it?

A cross is a 'symbol' of Jesus' crucifiction. My family does not put up Christmas trees or worship bunnies. I am not Catholic so your reference to Mary has no relevance.

>>IMHO, organized religion is the harlot of Revelations. I agree for the most part. Surprised?

>>Religious strife has caused more wars than any other item. True 100%!

>>I have a good, personal relationship with my creator... Ahhhh...but what about His Son?

>>but religion is a PERSONAL thing, not something you do among friends...

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

I won't be able to respond further tonight....maybe tomorrow.

God bless all!

Remember, God loved you so much he sent His only begotten Son Jesus to die for 'our' sin.

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

*nostalgic sniff*

Is this our first jihad in the new digs?

{seems like old times}

-- flora (***@__._), March 10, 2000.

Wow... this thread jumped the tracks rather quickly. First, I did not give investment advice. Because of my own analysis, I sold most of my equity positions last April and May. I did rather well on a speculative tech stock and made enough profits to justify sitting on the sidelines for the rest of the year.

Around rollover, I bought back into the market. My investments are in a few Dow blue chips that have taken an unfair beating (or so I think.) Even with the recent Dow slide, my investments are up... nicely.

The first rule of investing (and poker) is to take full, personal responsibility for your decisions. Blame prevents you from learning important lessons. The second rule of investing... never lose money. Even if you were parked in T bills for a few months, you made money. You could have easily lost your backside with a single bad stock investment. I bought Ciena at 13... and it closed recently at over 150. I sold in the 30s. I could cry about the money I could have made... but what's the point? Any profit is better than a loss.

The third rule of investing... any advice is worth no more than what you paid for it.

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@worldnet.att.net), March 10, 2000.

The Shadow,

One of the 'zoobie-isms' I recall from the heady pre-rollover days was:

"Jesus saves,

the Lord Buddah recycles"

-- flora (***@__._), March 10, 2000.

And i seem to be successful at the old practice of fitting in at least one mistake, so as not to offend the Creator...

-- flora (***@__._), March 10, 2000.

Ken,

You said, and I quote: "Wow... this thread jumped the tracks rather quickly."

Isn't that the way it is on just about every thread?

I appreciate the response: "The third rule of investing... any advice is worth no more than what you paid for it."

Cheers...

Mr. I believe in Him,

Symbol=Idol, IMHO.

Even though the literal translation in the original Hebrew Scripture is "stauros" or stake, not cross... But I am not going to go there right now.

Patrick McHenry, does this sound familiar to you???

snoozin'...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), March 10, 2000.

WOOF!

Good to see ya back in the game Dog!

-- Sam (Wtrmkr52@aol.com), March 10, 2000.

I made it back tonight after all....

The Dog

>>Symbol=Idol, IMHO.

I do not 'idolize' the cross. I do have great reverence for what it stands for. My savior died for our sin on that cross. For that I owe a debt I can never repay.

There is a distinct difference.

Before I go further, let me first say M-A-N-Y call themselves 'Christians' but are instead focused on the 'ritual' and not the 'faith'. They also do not try to read/understand their Bible as they should. They generally go by 'accepted practice' within their church/religion. They also generally are 'shy', shall we say, about their supposed belief in Christ.

...that said, let me now say that 'Faith Christians' view of the 'cross' is not looked on the same as 'Ritual Christians' do.

A Ritual Christian may look at the cross as a holy object; receiving worship in it's own right. A Faith Christian sees the 'cross' as a symbol recognizing the willingness of our savior Jesus to be crucified and die for our sin.

A 'Faith Christian' does NOT provide 'worship' to the cross, but to it's owner, Jesus.

Blessings to you....

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

The Dog

>>Regarding "Snarlin' at the TV evangelist"... You obviously haven't been around here very long, or you would have recognized my "tag line" for what it was, a tag line.

Does doing something for a long time make it right?

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 10, 2000.

Definitely a rookie...

I see you brought this up under it's own topic...

You should have broken up the posts a little bit... no one is going to read it now...

Do I hear "thump, thump, thump?"

(snicker)

barking at the JW...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), March 11, 2000.

The Dog

>>Definitely a rookie...

Yes...but the Lord is patient and forgives mistakes. All I am is a willing vessle for Him to use.

>>You should have broken up the posts a little bit... no one is going to read it now...

Maybe, but you're talking to me Dog and thats enough.

Thank you for your company!

May you one day find peace and joy beyond all understanding, placed upon you by the Holy Spirit and given to you from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Peace Dog!

-- I believe in Him (Jesus is King@Kingdom.come), March 11, 2000.

Hindsight:

Had you taken Ken's advice, or Andy's advice [Remember how Andy claimed the Dow would drop to 3,000 by end of October, 1999?] you STILL may have lost money. Did you also believe Jack Sprat when he claimed Y2k could NOT be fixed?

Perhaps I jumped the gun when I replied to Charles Underwood (sp?) that it shouldn't be assumed that folks are this naive.

-- Anita (notgiving@anymore.thingee), March 11, 2000.