are you a geek?

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Are you a geek? Do you try and hide it or do you wear it proudly?

Are you a recovering geek? Are you attracted to geeks?

what do you like about the geek culture?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Answers

Apparently, everyone else is too chicken to admit to their geekiness. Not me, though. I have my computer and my Playstation hooked up in my room. I have about a billion Magic cards (which, for the record, I've stopped playing) laying in a box around here somewhere. I love me some video games. I love They Might Be Giants. But just as friends. I have a bunch of Pez dispensers. But, on the other hand, I'm into punk and indie bands. None of my other friends are, and they come over to my house, and are like, "You have the biggest collection of CDs by bands that nobody's ever heard of that I've ever seen." And then I cry myself to sleep at night, holding my Mr. T Experience and Makers CDs pressed to my chest.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

I am a geek. I do not hide it, nor do I usually flaunt it.

I got your BASIC joke. I, too, programmed in Logo and BASIC at a young age. I've been using computers since I was five.

I am happy with the fact, however, that I am defined by much more than my geekness. I am proud that I am a very difficult person to pidgeon-hole. I was a "nerd" in junior high. I hung out with the "nerds". I ate at the "nerd" table. Then I got to high school, joined drama, and played leading roles in all of the productions. Suddenly I was popular in a very weird sort of way. It was weird because I still hung out with the nerds. People who thought I was "cool" didn't understand that. Nor did they understand why a funny guy/good actor would ever bother to head up an astronomy club.

I've never taken a computer class in my life, except for Pascal. I'm self-taught, which is the best way. I *understand* computers because I am used to thinking logically. For instance, in my work as a LAN Administrator, users often come to me with help on software. Rarely do I actually know how to do what it is they want to do. More often I sit down at their computer and figure it out. [This often involves opening the help files. To those of you who work with tech support, RTFM before you call us.]

My work with computers hasn't always been squeaky clean, either. At one time I could have called myself a hacker, in the illegal access sense. I've been on the Internet since it was called DARPAnet, chiefly because no one expected a 15 year old to be romping about on their network.

Dilbert used to make me laugh, but it has gradually grown less and less humorous. The funny came from when Scott Adams actually *worked* in the world of which he makes fun. The jokes are strained.

He should know when to quit like Gary Larson or Berkeley Breathed.

J

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Hi, I'm Melissa, and I'm a geek.

I own a Luke Skywalker plate from the Franklin Mint that I paid for in three easy installments. I know the "One ring to rule them all..." bit from The Lord of the Rings by heart (as well as all fifty states in alphabetical order, all the books in the Old Testament, and the companions from Dr. Who--and who played them--in chronological order). I own every Rick Astley CD ever made. In my car CD player right now (and no, I am not kidding) is Bert and Ernie's Greatest Hits. I know dance routines to most of the songs. I can sing along with Mandy Patinkin--in Yiddish. I am not Jewish. If pressed, I might be able to recite Return of the Jedi. I have a Thing 1 and Thing 2 tshirt that isn't a baby tee. I know the Powerpuff Girls theme song. I love Battle of the Planets and most people have never heard of it. I know what a filk is and have written some. I write Star Trek Voyager and Star Wars fan fiction.

I am definitely attracted to geek guys. Tall skinny boys, that's for me. Anthony Edwards, not George Clooney. Peter Tork, not Davy Jones. Mark Hamill, not Harrison Ford (okay, Mark's not tall).

I can't even hide it anymore. It takes too much work. And I like having my Bug's Life happy meal toys on my desk, with my Sesame Street calendar, and my Star Wars lego Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul. It's a cozy little geeky world, the place I inhabit. :-)

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


I've always considered myself a geek, because I read science fiction and comic books, play roleplaying games, wear glasses, am hated by pretty girls, and was excessively tortured in high school, but after reading all the things the rest of y'all do...well, I'm feeling like I'm not as big a geek as I thought I was.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

I am a Geek wannabee. In fact I am back in college at the ripe old age of 31 taking Geek 101 at the locally community college. Wish me well as I try to be like pam. b

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


I totally thought I was a geek and I was proud of it, but I after reading everything from y'all I now know it is not so. Hell I worked in a Comic book store (so what I only read undergrounds) I played Magic in highschool (So what if I never bought the cards and never really got it.) I am a geek dammit, so I don't know how my computer works I can still make it do stuff. Ok I guess I am just the the uncool geek how embarassing, Does that make me a the geek of the geeks?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

poseur geeks.

a whole new underworld to explore.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


The thing that sucks is being a geeks stuck halfway in the real world.

I mean, most of us are geeks, but not hard core geeks. Our social circles include people with interesting lives, real lives, lives that aren't geekdom, or even 9 to 5 corporate life. People we know, or we are ourselves, actors, writers, teachers, designers, and what have you.

Me, I played Dungeons and Dragons hard core from 6th grade through 10 grade. I was in band. I wore sweater vests. I programmed in BASIC and ran a BBS.

I'm a geek, but I'm not a hard core geek. I hung with punk rockers, metalheads, hippies, drug fiends. I had my share of one night stands, short and long term relationships.

See the problem is that we are reminded we are geeks because we are not total geeks and we hang with normal crowds.

examples:

My wife is worried that I may correspond with some girl over the Internet, ever since NBC broadcast their 20/20 or whatever it is about cybersex recently.

I cringe when my friends say 'Yeah, my Netscape was down today' and then they look at me funny when I correct them and say, 'No, your connection to the Internet was down, Netscape is a browser.'

My boss asked me a question and I went into an explanation about the differences between servers and clients until I realized he looked like a deer in headlights.

You see, if I only were around geeks, all of this behaviour would be normal.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Hey Pam, DATABASE!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH! HOHOHOHOHOHOHO! HEEEEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHHE! You nerd!

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

That was cold, Chuy.

I had totally forgotten about "Database." That's how I know how much I've been a part of geek culture.

When I first got into tech support I was complaining that I wasn't really going to fit in with everyone here because the punch line to all of their jokes was "Database."

Now I've even made jokes about ftp. (Priest and a Rabbi and a web page walk into a bar. The web page is wiggling around and squirmy. Priest says to the webpage "What's wrong with you" and the web page says, "Well, it happens at least once a day." The Rabbi says "What happens?" And the webpage says, "I F.T.P."

Oh, man. That's horrible. Database.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999



All I can do is type quickly. That's the only thing I do well in the technical job world. I can't even pronounce gigabyte without giggling, and I have to say it hourly so I spend a lot of time giggling. What the hell's a SCSI card?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Ya know, I don't think that it's a bad thing to be a geek anymore. I mean, there's less of a social stigma attached to it. You can be into computers and dilbert and books about elves and people don't really think any less of you. Geeks are necessary now. They're the people who keep our connections to the internet up and running, and who program all those nifty video games. Now dorks are another story. I think that everyone is afraid of becoming dorky. As they well should be. Dorks are a subset of geeks who like computers and dilbert and elves, just like normal geeks, but who like those things above other people. Dorky people are the geeks who don't like sanrio, who don't get jokes other than geek jokes. Beware of becoming dorky. Becasue dorks are geeks without any sort of redeeming human factors. I think you're right though pamie, boobs do go a long way in keeping you from being classed as a dork. -riyati http://members.tripod.com/~riyati/die-ary/

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Oh yeah, big bad geek joke, What's a terradactyl? ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... .......... 10^12th dactyls ha ha ha ha heh. Yeah. heh.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Soon after moving up to the Silicon Valley (nerdvana baby!), a friend of mine (Mike) from back in college visited me. He grew up in Santa Cruz (an hour away from San Jose) which meant that he had some friends up here and he wanted to hook me up with a few of them. He wanted to hook me up with GUY friends. That's fine. I needed friends in the local area.

So it's like a blind date almost except instead of looking for life partners, we're just looking for friends. Seriously. We all meet at this bar in Santa Cruz, Mike in the middle, his friend and I facing each other at the circular table not knowing what to say. I start drinking a lot of water, which serves two purposes: 1. I don't have to talk to this guy while pouring liquid down my throat and 2. If I drink enough water, I'll eventually have to go to the restroom where I won't have to deal with this stupid stupid situation.

Eventually, the other guy opens his mouth and the first words coming out of it was, "So did you install Windows 95?" I choked on my water. I got set up with a geek! Okay, yeah, so I'm a big nerd myself, but I wanted somebody to go to all the cool concerts with someone to play pointman when scouring for chicks. This was all wrong! What was Mike thinking?

The whole time all he would talk about was Microsoft, Bill Gates, and Windows 95. That was all we had in common to talk about - the fact that we can speak MS Geek (But no UNIX Geek). He wasn't a bad guy but not someone I'd hang out with necessarily. I get all the geekspeak I can take at work.

On our way back to my place, I had to tell Mike that this wasn't going to work out. He thought everything was working out great but I was dreading the possibility of hanging out with this guy. But I didn't know how to tell Mike who had spent all this effort to set me up with the dude. You know what I'm saying?

Me: Mike, I really don't know what to say... Mike: So you like him? You really like him? I knew you guys would hit it off! You guys are both in engineering sort of work and all. I bet you guys have lots to talk about. Windows 95, C++, you know all that jazz. Me: Yeah, ha ha, lots to talk about. Mike: This is great. Two of my best friends are gonna be friends. Me: Oh boy. Mike: So when are you gonna see him again? Me: See, the thing is... I don't want to go out with him again. Mike: What? Why not? Me: I can talk the geek talk at work, but off work, I really don't want to get back into that again. You know? Mike: But you guys are both... Me: Nerds? Mike: Yeah! Me: I'm sorry man. I know you're lookin' out for me and all. But I can't imagine being buddies with him. Nothin' clicks outside of ... er... Windows, C++ etc. Mike: *silence* Me: What. Are you pissed at me? Okay, maybe I'll give it another shot? I mean, dude, for you? I don't know man. Mike: No, that's fine. Me: Oh man. I don't like where this is going. He's going to come between us, isn't he? Mike: No, you know what? I'm just trying to help you adjust to living in the Silicon Valley. And if you don't want my help, that's fine. Me: I never asked for your help. I can find my own friends, thank you very much.

We went home both fuming and we didn't talk for months after. The thing is just because we're geeks doesn't mean we're all the same. There are different personalities to the geekness and one geek isn't necessarily compatible with another geek.

I think people who aren't geeks think that the geek community is one big tightly woven community of self-loathers and losers or something but we're really not that tightly woven.

Do you think the quality of geekness is one that's defining of one's character? I'm a geek and I don't try to hide it. But it would sadden me if people thought my geekness was the one defining characteristic for me.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Yeah, I guess I'm a geek...

My current job involves teaching about software... I design and write courses (we call that writing "courseware" naturally), teach courses, and train new instructors. The students in these courses are professional programmers who work for companies that have bought our software (which comes with six figure price tags). This follows a couple decades spent as a programmer/analyst.

I've worn glasses since 1956... at which time I had subscriptions to science fiction magazines and to the science fiction book club...

On the other hand I grew up in a very blue collar Italian neighborhood (kind of the token WASP)... have you seen "Grease"? Well, 40 years ago at age sixteen I would have been slapping Vaseoline Petroleum Jelly on my hair to hold it in shape... hanging out on the street corner, smoking, spitting, telling dirty jokes and trying to look tough. Kind of a schizoid situation, in the upper academic classes in school with the social and intellectual elite and hanging with the neighborhood hoods after school... neither group could fathom how I could stand to be with the others...

I love Pez. I may not know 1980's trivia (like about Jm Bullock) but when I was a kid I listened to sci fi shows on the RADIO! (True, I'm from the last radio generation... we got our first tv when I was in third grade.) I have a collection of buttons with sayings on them like "My strength is as the strength of ten because my code is pure!" I have a Dilbert strip taped up (the one where a cubicle is replaced by a "personal habitat" and when he complains about all his personal stuff being in the waist basket Dogbert says "That's a funny thing to call your personal storage unit.")hee hee -- but I gave up on the television version.

I never played Magic -- but in college played D-Day and Blitzkrieg, etc. board games. My oldest played D & D when he was a kid. My daughter not only plays D&D (and Myst, etc.) but she is a subscriber to the DragonRealms online center. My youngest is a computer and console game whiz.

I laughed out loud at the 10 to the 12th dactyl joke...

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999



Oh, I can't resist... (must be a geek!)

Q: How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb?

A: You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


It seems like two sets of characteristics get one labeled a geek: the first could be paraphrased, "Not a moron." As in astronomy club, actually knowing what an operating system is, or being able to solve Myst. The second is "not getting out enough": viewing the "Star Trek" characters as your personal buddies and all that entails, or making people call you by your D&D character name. Just about everyone here is category one, right? Because if you were socially stunted you wouldn't be Pamie (if you are Pamie) or be reading her (if you're not Pamie)-- you'd be building a nuclear reactor in your potting shed or designing your "Bimfast the Elf Mage" costume to wear to the next SCA meeting.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Yup, I'm a geek. I kind of separate "nerd" from "geek" in that nerds have no social life... geeks are just, well, geeky about something, most often computer stuff. But there are drama geeks and gardening geeks and all sorts of others.

I'm a self-taught computer geek. And, I almost exclusively date computer geeks. I think I like to find someone who knows more than I do or else I feel too condescending.

I just completely geeked out and redesigned my website... I love getting deep into projects like that where you lose all sense of time.

But (she said defensively), I enjoy other things, too, athletic things, etc.

-Kate http://www.drizzle.com/~kate

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


That's it! The "not a morons" are Geeks, and the "no social lives" are Nerds. But where do Dorks, Dweebs, and Wads fit in?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Pamie,

You could be very close to being a goddess of geekdom. Look at the facts:

#1. You are the voice of an anime character! Look out Pamiecon here you come!

#2. You are your own url. Pamie.com.

#3. You work in a help desk/tech support environment. I bet you even know what Unix is.

#4. When a bunch of guys stand around talking about IP, bandwidth, and proxy, you can jump right in with your "Hey, how about those new Cisco Routers!" statement.

#5. You have boobs.

#6. You're very funny.

#7. You have boobs.

Ok, just keep telling yourself, Angelina Jolie in Hackers.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


I think that a better priest and rabbi is as follows:

A priest and a rabbi and a web designer walk into a bar, and the web designer is shaking like crazy. The priest orders a beer, the rabbi wine and when the bartender asks the deisgner what he wants, he replies, "n- nnn- nnn- nothing. Too much java".

Lights out.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


I'm a geek.

I've got my own domain. When I get tired of writing web pages by hand, I hack out a Perl script that writes them for me. My current job is Web designer; before that I was help desk; before that I was the trainer in a tech support department.

I get a quiver when I think to myself, "Cool. I'm root".

I've gotta get out more.

http://IanTheTerrible.com

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Pamie, I am the geek of whom you speak. (god, I actaully said that..) The office supplies thing, that is so me. Well, i get to order office supplies for a whole bunch of people at work, and I'm really going to miss my catalog. I love the neon clear floppys. I adore the Unigel multicolored pens. I adore my green gel wrist rest, and I LOVE my FlexClip paper holder. I put my FlexClip on my head and pretend I'm Minnie Mouse.

I'm interviewing with Earthlink right now for a tech support position. I'm in love with the net (could you tell). I have Disney Classics vol. 1,2,3 and the Simpsons Sing the Blues.

I'm a total geek.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Anyone ever read "Geek Love?"

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

I am a geek and proud. But I was not born a geek. I think maybe I'm a MacGeek, since I didn't become a geek until I started working on a Macintosh 12 hours a day. But I do get terribly geeked any time I get new software or hardware ("geeked" is my word for undue excitement caused by computer equipment, akin to "psyched," as in, "I'm totally geeked about the new iBook!).

No Dungeons and Dragons or Magic cards for me, but I'm training to become a pre-adolescent geek with my son. I can *almost* do the entire Pokerap and I play Pokemon the card game with him and I know most of the Pokemon evolutions. Soon we are going to build him a web site so he can be King Geek of his third grade class.

I am very attracted to geeks; I get crushes almost exclusively on geeks. I'm not alone: feast your eyes on Bonnie Burton's Cute Geek Guys page. Yum.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


No, I'm not a geek. Deny , deny, deny !!!!

Okay, occassionally I may laugh at "you know when you've been on the computer too long when..." jokes, maybe even relate to them. I'll admit to being overly partial to Mac's, engaging in Mac vc PC debates and reading Adobe magazines with semi- detached interest. Yes, I have stationary organisational skills, and have become territorial about my cubicle. I'll also admit to liking the Matrix and it's references to the system. And yeah, my job involves websites which can occassionally result in me feeling net-withdrawal on the weekend in my modemless home.

But I'm not, I repeat, not a geek. Right?

Right ???????

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Okay, I'm sitting here reading all this and thinking, "No way am I a geek. I thought I was a geek, but these people are geeks."

Then I remembered: we're a two domain couple. Jeremy has started building our web server. We used to do this direct dial-in chat with Procomm when we were first dating, so we could "talk" on the phone late at night without disturbing his parents. Between us, we have at least eight computers.

I'm sort of a geek by marriage, except we aren't actually married.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


yes i am a geek. i laugh at dilbert jokes.i know BASIC. i try to hide it, but my taste in men gives me away. i am attracted to the geekiest of the geeks (tall scrawny guys with glasses) there is just something about an intellectual looking guy that gets me all worked up. i am turned on by a guy who can recite lines from starwars and can speak Klingon. i LOVE Weird Al and They Might Be Giants. that makes me a geek right?!

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

Oh. My. Buddha.

I am *SUCH* a geek!

I was reading through this entry and when I got to that last LONG paragraph, my face got more and more red and I was trying to disappear into my hair. I can NOT walk by an Office Depot OR an Office Max and I am TOTALLY about to orgasm over the fact that there is a new STAPLES being built right down the street from my work.

I totally LOVE green uniball markers and yellow highlighters...

And I should shut up now... huh?

Bye.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


Anyone else out there ever take O'Reilly book orders for your entire shop?

Who's the bigger geek, the geek, or the geek that delivers O'Reilly's to him?

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


(Oh, God, that was an Obi Wan Kenobi double entendre wasn't it? All this before I even mention the autographed and numbered William Shatner movie cards! I'm like the Biohazard Level 4 of geek. I can hide behind this pile of Sandman comics. No one will find me in that.)

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999

All I'm going to say about this subject is this: I am the President of the Chemistry Club at my University.

Sometime it depresses me. And then I remember that some people (the right people) like nerdy girls.

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


okay, getting a little worried. i programmed in BASIC on my vic20, i liked the adobe joke and i played magic, in a denny's restaurant no less, while drinking coffee until 2 am.

oh my god.

i _am_ a geek!

-- Anonymous, August 11, 1999


I'm not a geek. I'm a jerk off.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Hmm. Geek? Wad? Jerk-off? Nerd? Dork? I guess that last one, since dork to me connotes a goofy sort of endearing geekiness, but not necessarily the intelligence. But I was always the one kid in the "nerd herd" (in jr. high all of the nerds were quarantined in the same classes together while the stupid cool kids got to socialize normally and mix classes) who didn't want to be grouped with the nerds. I was in my denim jacket, t-shirt, jeans every-single-day phase and would come into homeroom, look around disgustedly, say ,"I hate you, nerds!", put my head down and go to sleep. I didn't want to be thought of as smart. I think I wanted to be Eric on 'Head of the Class'. But hey, he did direct "Goodburger" and "Varsity Blues"!

Once I started to be thought of as "cool", I realized I much prefered the company of the geeks. Unfortunately, the "cool" kids started joining the speech team and "trying out" for plays (duh, any drama geek knows you call it auditioning). Because the "cool" kids realized it was really cool (note the lack of parentheses and consequent lack of sarcasm) to do these things because they could actually be themselves and be accepted.

That's what being a geek is really about: being whatever the hell you want and making up your own rules about what is cool. That's why the Jake Ryan's in their cigar bars will always secretly admire the Farmer Ted's.

ps- I am into science fiction, anime, NPR, I have played Magic and I do understand Dilbert. I don't know very much about computers or comic books, and I don't find Dilbert funny.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


i wish i were really a geek. i am only kind of a geek. i have been told i lack the proper quantity of geekiness.

i don't watch enough sci-fi, obsess over hardward, or play video games. however, i spend an inordinate amount of time on the computer-- mostly online-- and have an uncanny ability to memorize urls. i am the computer/graphics maven on journalism staff. i casually study geek culture from my comfy lil' ergonomic swivel chair and redesign my webpage in hopes that it can look just in nice in every browser from lynx to ie5. i telnet to my local library to put holds on cds i want so i can mp3 them.

i see no reason to recover from geekiness. geek guys are extremely attractive, but geek girls always make me feel inferior to their amazingly intelligent and fascinating geekiness. but geek guys are extremely attractive (i say repeatedly).

i may not be the everygeek, but i am geeky enough for me, dammit.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


i'm not a geek. I'm a dork. And thats.... Okay. jesse

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Hello, my name is Kelli, and I am a geek. Although I'm sure I'm not living up to my geek potential. I don't have my own website, but I have created quite a few sets of pages (the actual terminology escapes me now. my geekness comes and goes) for our intranet here at work. I have forms, drop-downs and animation. Some even have music! I'm interested in the mouse-overs. I have been offered (half- seriously) a job in our tech support department, our I.S. department, and as a programmer here, but alas, I remain an Executive Assistant. One of my aunts is a programmer who owns her own company, and has offered to teach me the true ways of programming...an offer I've considered.

I dated a couple of geeks, but married a gearhead instead. He is slowly converting to geekism. We bought a computer a few years back "to play games on". This computer is now his hobby in the colder/rainy/winter months (because he can't ride his motorcycles then). A year after the purchase of our first computer, he had totally "rebuilt" it, adding this and that. I even heard him utter "...need more memory!" That was when it started... now we have two computers that he NETWORKED on his own. He's joined us, but is still in denial.

Am I a fringe-geek? A full-geek? A geek-in-training? I'm not sure. Please help me...

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Oh, AND I LOVE OFFICE SUPPLY STORES/CATALOGS! There, I said it. When the hubby says "I need to go to Office Max or Office Depot", I play it cool, and I'm all like "Ok, whatever" but inside I'm like "WOO- HOO! EXCELLENT!" It's like paradise, baby! All those pretty colored pens, markers, folders, filing systems, paperclips... all the possibilities! Everything new! OH, and there's PLANNERS! I LOVE PLANNERS!

Ooooo. Suddenly, I'm dizzy... Must...get...back...to...work...

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Oh, I'm a geek. I admit it. I proof text for CD-ROMs and other training software. I'm on the fast-track to becoming a tech writer. We use a program that is actually called "The Rebiggulator" and I laughed myself sick when I saw the name and got "The Simpsons'" reference. (Just like I did when I read your Comic Book Guy joke, Pamie.) I just started working at this place and the place I was before was so non-geeky that I felt like the biggest freak in the universe walking in there day after day with my 'Sailor Moon' hairclips and my Scooby Doo calendar and my Penn & Teller wallpaper on my computer. Then I get this new job and I walk into this office and see "The Rebiggulator" and hear my new co-workers debating where "The Phantom Menace" falls in the heirarchy of Star Wars films and I think to myself, "Yeah! I've come home! I'm among my own people once again."

I've got friends who write plays about superheros. I, myself, write angst-filled short stories about people who are finally learning to love and accept their own geeky ways after trying unsuccessfully for years to fit into the mainstream of what is supposedly cool. (Yes, yes, I realize it's a niche market.)

But, you know what? I just went to my 10 year high school reunion and I'll tell ya, kids -- Everybody there was trying their damndest to pass themselves off as a GEEK! Damn! My friend Bruce and I (the only true geeks in the room) were the most popular people in attendance -- just because everyone was hoping that maybe some of our geekiness would rub off on them and then people would think that maybe they were cool and original and followed their own drummers and things like that. It was funny to see the same people who mocked me in high school for being a 'drama geek' and a 'newspaper nerd' and (in their opinion) just plain 'weird,' trying to convince me now that they too were geeks just like me. Meanwhile, the whole lot of them looked like they all got together beforehand and coordinated their outfits just so they'd still be the cool kids.

Ah, but who are the cool kids now, my friends? ; )

"If I Wrote You..." http://members.xoom.com/katie_did/jrnlindex.htm

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I've been a geek all my life and I've been very proud of it.

Like Melissa, I've been attracted to geeky men (all except three of my exbfs, I met online... all except two are in the CS/Math/Engineering variety). My current partner kinda looks like a young Rick Moranis.

I'm a definite roleplaying geek: I started in firsth grade with D&D, worked up to AD&D in junior high and high school (with flavorings of GURPS and Toon), Over the Edge and Paranoia in college... Chill and Call of Cthulhu afterI graduated. I play tons of boardgames (Settlers of Catan, 18xx, Robo Rally, The Awful Green Things from Outer Space, Kings and Things).. lots of card games (serious INWO collector 'cause I think the cards are pretty, SW:CCG for a bit, Heretic, Magic, want to get into On the Edge)... LARPs (of the Interactive Literature Foundation variety, not Vampire or Star Wars which are often too open ended and not tight tight tight.. I like LARPs where the GMs give you the characters and setting and the mystery is getting all the little bits of info together and achieving your particular goals. They feel very different from the Vampire games I've played in the past... and Vampire I only like Dark Ages.. modern vampires are too "tame" for me.. let me play a Tzimisce any day!).

My current partner and I met at the Japanese Animation Club on campus. He's a Math Grad and I was a botany undergrad. Got my degree in botany (in less than four years) and then entered the world of web development.

I worked for NCSA for a year (and I've got a way funky cool NCSA Mosaic mug to prove it! I've got several "Mosaic" pins that always gets a chuckle when I go to cons and bring the jacket that I pinned them to).

My father and I put together a Heathkit computer when I was 5. I was hooked ever since. I have pictures of me at 6 in a computer magazine to prove how much of a geek I was even when my chin was at the spacebar level.

I not only collected Sandman, but when I was in high school, I have a nice collection of many Vertigo titles.

I have a small but sweet manga and anime collection. Even a sub of Mononoke Hime.

I hate clothes shopping.. my mom buys all my clothes. However, i can spend *hours* in a bookstore.

My partner and I, when we first started dating, would spend a Friday or Saturday evening in an abandoned computer lab on campus with our friends downloading porn or playing networked shootemup games.

I *only* laugh at the Dilbert jokes involving computers. I'm generally unimpressed with the middle management jokes. However, I *love* userfriendly. I print my favorites out and hang them around my cube, to the confusion of many people in my company who aren't geeks (for a computer consulting company, we have very few geeks in our midst. I stick out like a sore thumb in the 'she's kooky' department).

Like most geeks, I am prone to fan-boy obsession (Iko *does* the Blair Witch, baby... and she'll get hyper in October when Mononoke Hime makes its US debut!).

...and I ramble like a typical geek. =) But I wouldn't be any other way. I think it's really sad when people who *are* geeks (and have geek tendancies and quirks) try very hard not to be so. ‰

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I was a geek before geeking was cool.--Al

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

This is a nifty thread.

I think being a geek is possibly the coolest thing in the world.

Admittedly, when I realized that I was making D&D jokes like "Don't tick me off, I'll hit you with this fist +7!", I thought maybe it was time to stop playing. But amongst my friends in high school, I was the coolest of the cool when I came home from the Blake's Seven/Dr. Who convention with the hundred-sided dice.

I was also president of the Latin Club. Semper ubi sub ubi, baby.

My friends are like Kate's friends..they all want to be geeks now. What they don't realize is that it's too late, really. They can only pretend now. I'm a firm believer that geeks start young and have to go through a level of total uncoolness to achieve the cool status we hold now.

You--yeah, you. Off my Darth Maul inflatable chair.

Melissa

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


of course I'm a geek. make that a slacker geek . . . right now I'm surfing the web instead of writing a paper that is due at three o'clock today. I wrote my first computer program at age four. I beat riven in five days. I love being a geek, but I don't feel constrained by or even obligated to be a part of geek culture. I'm still young. I will never be a corporate geek.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Semper ubi sub ubi? Wow, Melissa, bad puns in Latin is a true geek thing. I'm impressed. The favored phrase from my Latin class was Ubi est mea sub ubi.

A few years ago while running in a corporate challenge 5k race I noticed that the runners from a local law firm were wearing black t-shirts imprinted with a Latin phrase. Unfortunately my Latin was far out of date (and I had been a terrible Latin student besides... it was my first experience with a subject where I should have actually opened the book and studied outside of class) so I had to ask one of the running lawyers for a translation... it turned out to be "Sue the bastards!"

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


of course i'm a geek. i take solace from the fact that i'm not as much of a geek as my significant other, who's currently trying to develop a chess n' poker chips game to take the place of magic in the hearts of geeks all over.

speaking of magic, i was the only counselor who understood what was going on last month when the kids refused to do anything but play magic during their down time. of course, i was at a camp designed for geeks.

although i wasn't at dungeons & dragons camp. such a thing actually exists.

yes, i have read geek love. horribly disturbing book, wonderfully told. this fits in with the splattergothgeek persona, don't cha know...

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Nope, I am not a geek, but not a moron either. Am not attracted to geeky men (or morons). Have boobs. Major boobs. Since age 11. (laughing) Was not a nerd in school (but was not a cheerleader type either - was just weird in a totally different way from the slide-rule carrying, Latin club types).

Never slept with nerds or geeks - well, maybe once, but that was an exception and it wasn't much fun (for me).

PC's did not exist until I was about 30. I got into programming for a while back then, for job reasons. After a short time I found programming really boring and tedious, not challenging or interesting, and it will be fine with me if I never write another line of code as long as I live. I never got hooked into any computer games.

I got into on-line forums in the early 90's because I like people, not computers, and I like exchanging information and opinions. Computers are just a means of communication.

I do like Office Depot though... but I've been into stationery stores and all forms of paper and writing instruments and forms of correspondence since I was about 3.

So that's my history with computers. Unfortunately my boss seems to think I *am* a geek just because I have a web site and a domain name - somehow I have to get her to understand that any old lady can put up a web site and have a domain name without tagging any text herself (and I am perfect proof of that). She keeps putting me on geeky committees with the geekiest men in my department, to deal with topics I have no interest in and am ill-suited to be working on. Oh well.

Judy

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Alight, fine, I was a geek too. I wasn't going to admit it, but here it goes. I was in the jr. high marching band, red hair, big teeth, and I was the second smallest kid in the school. It would've been cool to be the smallest kid in school, but noooo, I was the second smallest. There's no prize for the runner up, just a lot of weggies.I weighed 85 lbs. in the 7th grade. I never played D&D or collected comic books, I was a geek by default.

Ohhh, the agony.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I've been a geek for as long as I can remember. I was the only girl I know who could recite the names of NASA's first class of women astronauts, I spent hours playing with a microscope before discovering computers, I read comix and listened to Rush in high school, then spent 6 years at two different engineering colleges.

Now I write geek books, I have my own domain, and I've become a language geek in addition to my science-nerd persona. I met my partner online.

But I still snicker every time I walk into a comic book store and every guy in the place turns around, 'cause I know they're thinking, "oh my God! It's a woman! _What is she doing in the

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I can't believe someone else had a Vic20. That's amazing.

Oh, I guess I should also raise my hand: President of Latin club-- two years. President of Chess Club-- two months, until I was beaten by some girl hater. (No kidding, he would mumble that I was castling because I was a girl)

My latin is fading, though, since I was fourteen when I took it. Agricolae sunt in via.

Oh, and for geekiness-- how about getting shipped to a high school in junior high for science and english? how about third year college calculus my senior year of high school? Academic Decathalon one year. Odyssey of the Mind three years. We geeked out over building our own towns and cities in gifted class.

I've already mentioned how I used to try and give myself braces. Did you know that I wanted to be like Doogie Howser? (now this whole journalling thing is starting to make sense...)

I choreographed weird al dance numbers-- (who else knows all the words to the entire "In 3D" album? Nature trail to hell! In Threeee-deeeeee!).

I cried for three days when I couldn't figure out the Rubick's Cube.

I read the Outsiders so many times that I wrote myself in as a character. I wrote horror short stories on my typewriter in my closet.

I wanted to be one of the Explorers. Or the Goonies. Hell, I was a Goonie. Maybe I still am. I've got the inhaler. All I need is to find Chester Copperpot.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Oh, and don't get me started on the microscope when I was six. I had brine shrimp all over the damn house.

I was pulling all sorts of hair out of my head.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


it's funny - i don't consider myself a geek because i don't know diddly about any of that backend hardcore computer stuff - and also because i know REAL geeks.

and YET - friends (and co-workers) call me a geek. sure i get a little excited when ripping open the latest version of photoshop and yes, i actively seek ranma 1/2 tapes, i get the dilbert jokes, i even get the userfriendly jokes, and ok sure i play quake every day after work, but please, i'm still unsure of what exactly a "shell" account is and even though i know i can figure it out, i'll probably still get a friend to help my new baby online, just to be sure i don't screw it up.

still. i laughed through your entire entry pamie. i mean, the WHOLE thing. and i have a page on chickpages.com and an email account at chickmail.com...just because i'm lazy and haven't got my home account set up yet. but i'm about to start learning notes/domino and getting involved in the back-end stuff at work... sooo... i guess that means i'm becoming a geek more then anything else.

but i will still buy my lipstick at M.A.C.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Oh man, "In 3D" was one of my favorite albums! I stole it from my brother and never gave it back. Now I have to go dig it out of storage.

I loved being a geek in high school. The girls that I hung around with tried to pretend like they weren't geeks. Meanwile, I freely admitted I was a geek and was completely open about liking geeks. (While my friends were pining away for the captain of the football team, I was hung up on the editor-in-chief of the school newspaper and the secretary of the filmmaking club.) And since I was the only openly geeky female in our classes, I got the guys' undivided attention.

Of course, considering that these guys were geeks, all that attention ever amounted to was a whole lot of worshipping from afar and stupid teasing and horseplay. They never asked me out. : ( They never asked anyone out. Hell, they were too busy with D&D and making their own movies in the woods behind the baseball fields.

But now it seems like they're all starting to come around and I'm getting a lot of attention again. Damn! If only I were single.

---Kate

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


From the sad but true geek love files:

I liked this one geek boy and he liked me. It was pretty obvious we were in deep, deep like here. Anyway, I was at his house on New Year's Eve and we were sitting in his room looking up at the glow-in-the-dark stars on his ceiling (that were painted on using a stencil to make it an actual reproduction of the solar system) and we were looking at Casseopia when the clock struck twelve. I wanted him to kiss me so bad, but I didn't know if I could make the first move because he was pretty shy. Check this out:

I said, "Gee, isn't there some sort of tradition that you do on New Years when it strikes twelve?"

He looked up at me with a deer in headlights look. All I could see were his eyes shining. He said, "Uh... yeah. I know there is one.... I can't remember what it is. Can you?"

I whispered a little swear word. He was too nervous to do it. Or he didn't want to. "Well, I asked you."

"Huh. I can't remember."

"Me either."

Sitting on that bed was the combined I.Q. of at least 275 and we both pretended that we were too stupid to remember the New Year's Eve tradition. We just sat there and listened to the bells chime.

Two months later we dated for almost a year. We both laugh about that moment, but really it was like a nervous-we're-so-fucking-pathetic kind of laugh.

Horrible.

True story.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


It occurs to me that I know a lot of people who would consider me a geek (although I do not necessarily consider myself one, especially after some of the other posts-I'm just not in the same league)simply for following a forum discussion about being a geek.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

http://www.wtfman.com/mcd/dick2.htm

THAT'S a geek! Have fun at this page all, this is a million laughs right here this is....

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I sleep with a geek--my wife is as good or better with computers than I am. She has a marginal interest in comic books too (we met via a comic book lettercolumn).--Al

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Well, I majored in Math in college and have been doing programming and systems analysis work (in "Newspeak", that's systems integration) for 20 years.
 
Its been good, though.  I work for a large company which has reduced in size from 30,000 employess to 8,000.  I never worried about my job, even as the "cool" admin-types fretted over every cut-back.  I don't feel pressured to work overtime ("fire me? ...you can't replace me!") and I take vacation days whenever I want.  The women among my users are appreciative of my help; I get kisses, hugs, cookies and candy.

I tell my sons that so-and-so (some cool kid) won't seem so cool in a few years.  "He'll be washing your car!", I tell them.  Of course, knowing that the world's biggest geek is also the world's richest...

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I'm gonna buy me a condo... I'm gonna buy me a cuisinart... Get the wall-to-wall carpeting... Get a wallet full of credit cards...

Need I say more?

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Get the funny little t-shirt. With the alligator on.

Ha.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


I can't believe what a bunch of geeks you people are! I mean, I've been sitting here for hours reading these geeky responses on my computer and...oh...wait a minute...

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

When I discovered that our new version of Sybase supported a "case" condition in a SQL select statement, I let out a hoot........

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Wait, does writing yourself into the Outsiders as a character make you a geek? I mean, I already knew I was a geek (I was the SCHOOL BOARD REP at my high school, for pete's sake), but I didn't know the Outsiders thing counted, too.

By the way, I was the tragic little runaway who Ponyboy befriended in the park, and Darry was all pissed off because I was just another mouth to feed, but then it turned out that I could make really good chocolate cake (which the boys always had for breakfast, you know) so they let me hang around, and eventually Darry and I fell in love and I got a job so he was able to go to college and Ponyboy could finish school. I think I killed Soda off in a car accident; he always annoyed me, and that brought me and Darry closer together.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


In the 4th Grade, when all of the other kids were running around as superheroes, like Batman, or the Hulk, my superhero of choice was Adam Warlock. How much of a geek do you have to be to be Adam Warlock among your comic book reading buddies? I bet even Al Schroeder is reading this and shivering at the geekiness.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

In mine I was steve's little sister and I hung with Ponyboy and Johnny and we all killed that soc and we had to hide in the old church and then rescue those kids. I was real upset when Dally got shot.

I was like everyone's little sister.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999


Oh, well see, mine took place AFTER the events in the book. I'll have to work you in, but that's cool. I always wanted a little sister, and it was kinda lonely there with all those boys (especially since I got rid of Cherry the Soc, that bitch).

-- Anonymous, August 12, 1999

Gotta raise my hand here... I'm half of a true geek couple. We met as he trained me in for a tech support job. 9 months later we were married!

We do all of the Star Trek, Babylon 5, SciFi channel stuff all week. And if we're not watching that - it's time for documentaries on Discovery or PBS. For heaven's sake, one of our 19 month old's favorite show is Mr. Bean!!!

We've been known to be in the same house only separated by a wall and just talk over Instant Messenger until it's time for bed. My hubby is in the process of trying to get me to convert to Linux - I still haven't given in, but I'm sure it will happen before the end of the year.

Every trip to the nearby town for shopping has a stop at either one of the big electronics stores or software stores or both.

In high school, DH was a D&D player - I would watch my friends in Drama/Speech play it. I have Magic cards around the house somewhere from dabbling in that with a former geek boyfriend. I was active in everything geeky in highschool - from band to speech to yearbook. LOL... I just remembered that I was the only 4-5th grader to have a computer to write up my reports. Guess that sealed my fate.

So, definitely count me in as a geek. I'm proud to be in your ranks.

-- Anonymous, August 13, 1999


Beth & Mike & Pamie... You've got to read John Varley's latest novel "The Golden Globe" -- was in hard cover & is about to be released (Sept 99 pub date) in paperback. Set in the same future as his "Steel Beach" and "Barbie Murders" etc., you will be fascinated by the protagonist's childhood as the star of a kid's video adventure series that may remind you of some of the adventures you created for yourselves as children (Pamie, you may be especially interested since most of the book deals, in one way or another, with acting and Shakespeare and Punch&Judie shows and theatre, etc.)

-- Anonymous, August 13, 1999

Mike - At least it wasn't Dr. Strange. You would have been running around saying things like, "By the hoary hosts of Hoggoth"!

-- Anonymous, August 13, 1999

i am a geek. i work in the computer support center at my college, even though i'm an english major, and i play snood like it's an addiction. i went to see star wars at midnight the night it opened. i haven't bought a domain yet, though.

and my boyfriend buys star wars legos. he's an even bigger geek than me.

(plus, we're both theatre geeks, which is totally different but yet somehow the same. most of the true geeks i know are both computer and theatre people. it's kind of odd.)

-- Anonymous, August 14, 1999


i wish i were a bigger geek than i am. geeks rule.

-- Anonymous, August 14, 1999

Why would a web page FTP? I don't get it. I mean, if it were a file server walking into a bar with a Rabbi and a Priest, it'd make sense. Or a software pirate. But a web page? They don't FTP.

Here's my suggestion:

A rabbi, a priest, and a file server walk into a really CD bar. The file server keeps thrashing around and swapping stools. The rabbi asks, "What's wrong with you?" The file server says, "I FTP." So the priest says, "Well, gopher it." The file server replies, "But I HTTP here, since their restrooms are so SCSI."

Now, that's the WAIS should be told. If you're going to telnet jokes, make sure to get the details right.

-- Anonymous, August 15, 1999


Will--

you win.

hands down.

-- Anonymous, August 16, 1999


i agree.

brilliant joke, wil.

-- Anonymous, August 16, 1999


Dammit, Wil, you beat me to it. But while I'm here, I can at least say, Rich, that Netscape is a *company*; *Navigator* is a browser. And if you've used it, you damn well should know how often it goes "down".

Allright, who's up for some Linux kernel hacking with me? Anyone? Anyone?

-- Anonymous, August 16, 1999


I recently bought a Radio Shack Electronics Project Lab kit that will let me do 130 of my very own electronics experiments, i'm up through experiment 40 or so.

Fortunately, my girlfriend thinks this sort of thing is cute.

By the way, a geek is someone who eats gross things for money and other people's amusement. Which i also used to do, and incite others to do, in the cafeteria in highschool.

-- Anonymous, August 17, 1999


Ok, my vanity license plate is a geek test.

It says CHROWL. (That's ch'rowl, but they don't let you put an apostrophe in a license plate.)

1023 points to the first person to post why that's funny.

-- Anonymous, August 18, 1999


I never thought I was a geek, until today...

I have non-technical friends, newbies to the Internet, and they accuse me of being a geek, but I just laugh it off.

Reading this forum, I realize maybe I am a geek because I've gotten all the jokes, all the Internet references, all the Database lingo, everything...

But, I don't think I'm a high-level geek. Someone should come up with a geek standard, defining different levels of geekdom, and then, when questioned (accused?) of being a geek, you can refer to a level of geekdom that you've achieved.

See...I don't think Bill Gates is the highest level of geekdom, in fact, I think he USED to be a geek, but he's more of a 'corporate' poser now. At the highest level of geekdom, I would have to recommend the creator of this forum...Philip Greenspun. Professor at MIT, experience in building 100's of database-backed websites, and pioneer in creating collaborative websites which is truly changing the way people use the Internet...that's a geek (perhaps a "Greenspun" geek).

Support personnel, lan admins, help desk techies should be categorized in their own group.

Serious C++ and Java Programmers, those who don't use 'Visual' tools but rather prefer UNIX-type line editors, should definitely have their own category.

Then there's Internet junkies, comic book fanatics, hackers/hobbiests, and gamers.

What do you think? I think asking people to fit into a pre-defined category in order to classify their identities is itself geek-y, but oh well...I MUST be a geek.

-- Anonymous, August 19, 1999


I know what ch'rowl is, kzinrret, but I used a geek cheat to find out. :-)

A standard for rating geeks? Here's the link: http://www.frontiernet.net/~jbennett/nerd/index.html (Willingness to take this test is the first sign of nerdiness, aka geekdom.)

Finally, this guy qualifies as one of the premier geeks of the world: http://www.fsf.org/people/rms.html If you've even heard of him, you're pretty hardcore yourself.

-- Anonymous, August 19, 1999


Victor, you're right, Stallman is like an ur-geek. Noting that he has been a Grace Hopper Award recipient... I often describe myself (professionally) as someone who has been writing COBOL code since Gracy Murray Hopper was on active duty... and then I note who gets it and who doesn't...

-- Anonymous, August 20, 1999

Today, I picked up an order of 500 business cards with my webpage address. Just my webpage address, because I didn't know what else I should put on it. They can get my e-mail address when they log in and visit my site. I certainly don't want anyone dropping by to visit me, or calling me if they can get by on e-mailing me.

I figure that this is almost, but not quite, as geeky as Garth holding out a dixie cup, and telling that guy, if you have to spew, spew in this!

-- Anonymous, August 20, 1999


I occasionally lapse into moments of geekdom. Myself and my boyfriend recently went out and bought his and hers Game Boy Advances' His is Glacier and mines Fuschia. Hey! It's quirky. Girls don't usually get Pink Game Boy's out there Suzy Smith bag on the bus and start playing Street Fighter 2 or Mario Kart. And then there was the time I went out and bought my iMac, which I absolutely love. But it's useful for my photography work! My boyfriend Sam is a recovering geek, it took him a while to discover clubs and Ibiza and dj-ing. He did do the DHTML and Jave script on my website though. He stayed up all night doing it Bless him! He started to enjoy it. He's a sweetheart and I wouldn't have it any other way. I think everyone has an element of geek in themselves...some more then others. We couldn't get by without them, nothing would ever have been invented. Bring o

-- Anonymous, February 27, 2002

Hmmm, just checking to see if I can post through Google cache, if you see this, I did.

I'm really sorry about that AOL thing. Seriously, I'm sorry, getting DSL in a week or two hurray!

-- Anonymous, March 19, 2002


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