This is from Westerguard's site posted today...glad my waterbag came yesterday!

www.y2ktimebomb.com/Tip/Lord/lord9912.htm

Can't get it to paste...can someone do the honors??

R.

-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), March 21, 1999

Answers

http://www.y2ktimebomb.com/Tip/Lord/lord9912.htm

-- Critt (critt@critt.com), March 21, 1999.

There's a thread running about this article at:

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000dFP

"30 Million without water"

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), March 21, 1999.

What makes me crazy is that in order to make estimates like this, the estimators must have SOME IDEA of WHICH cities may find themselves sans clean water? Sure, some cities were named in this report, but are THEY the ones? Does anyone know? I'd also love access to the transcripts of this meeting if anyone out there knows where to find them.

Thanks!

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), March 21, 1999.

FM,

It is very difficult for anyone to gather enough information and to determine it's truthfulness to enable conclusiveness at this time.

Best wishes,

-- Watchful (seethesea@msn.com), March 21, 1999.

FM:

I agree that this sort of haziness is frustrating. Where do these conclusions come from, and what are they based on? I hope there's at least one person on this forum who can give us some insight as to how 'not compliant' has become 'no water'.

These assertions are very frightening. I'm not aware of any particular problem that has cropped up in the testing of water supply and treatment facilities that has been done. There have been rumors of problems showing up in simulations performed by unnamed utilities, but nobody could ever track these down. You'd think that serious concerns like this would be based on at least some hard data.

Meanwhile, time to augment my water stockpile.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), March 21, 1999.

I live in a large city in what is one of the world's more forbidding deserts. Temperatures here reached 122 degrees one June grounding commercial aircraft at our busy downtown airport.

The water utility is sooooo far behind that their plans call for manual operation of these facilities. The word from the grunts actually doing the work is not encourageing. It seems that the operators today, being a product of video games and assorted digital pasttimes lack the attention span and the finely tuned kinesthetic neurology to do repetitive analog operations. Until now I did not think that H2O was going to be a problem.

Now, I am rethinking the whole ball-o-wax about Y2K. It seems to me that we modeled the control systems on the human activities of successful equipment operators. After completing the automation, these people were laid off or retired. In a sense, their intelligence and accumulated wisdom is trapped in the microcode and is vulnerable to ANYTHING which makes it unavailable!

Consider something fairly trivial. Until a few years ago, most public libraries had card catalogs. Difficult to maintain and labor intensive, they presented massive information in PARRALEL. Even if you did not know exactly what you were searching for, the descriptions on each card often triggered in one's mind associations and further associations. Searches could have been enormously productive. Now, with computers searching for EXACTLY and ONLY what you have input, the library experience has become less rewarding. To some extent the parrallarity of the of the former card system has morphed into the Web, and has seen much of library activity as a substitute.

To sum up, there is a real human skills deficit associated with Y2K. We may find that we can't go home again-and the film 2001 is our fate...hello, HAL!!!

-- Kev Stevens (Chiam123@aol.com), March 21, 1999.