Here's a link where you can find the SEC filing for most of the electric utilities in the U.S.....

http://biz.yahoo.com/research/indgrp/util_elec_pwr.html

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 20, 1998

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THANKS KEVIN!!!! Anyoneliving in the CENTERIOR/FIRSTENERGY areas (CLeveland, Toledo, Akron, PA(Sorry I don't know what part) NEEDS to READ THIS LINK (if everything goes well:

http://www4.edgar-online.com/brand/yahoo/gdoc/?choice=2-1182674&nad=0

Cut and Paste, OK??? Then use the edit function for "Year 2000" and read your power company's BS Boilerplate. the CEI section has an interesting comment in that they are handling the problem with wholesale replacement of MANY systems, and have expended about a third to a half of the estimated amount. READ the qualifiers and weasle words and see if you don't want to get that kero cook stove up at Stocton Sales this summer. Or that Coleman stove and catalytic heaters.

Chuck, having found what I expected, pass the xanax please!

-- Chuck a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), November 20, 1998.

Hey Chuck when you're done pass it over my way.

I can't even find anything on TVA. It's owned by the Feds. The old guy who represented them on TV a few weeks ago told us not to worry. "There's still time to get this fixed." I just wanted to do a primal scream when I heard that.

There has been job postings for TVA in the last month. They are still looking for people to fix it!

-- Anna McKay Ginn (annaginn@aol.com), November 20, 1998.

Kevin what was the name of your thread with all peoples favorite links?

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 20, 1998.

That thread is called "What are some of your Y2K and preparedness bookmarks?"

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000ExW

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 20, 1998.

Thank you so much Kevin. Now I was finally able to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING from my local utility, ConEd in New York City.

Four paragraghs in their SEC filing. Basically, they started in '95, and "expect that necessary changes to company-developed systems that are critical to providing energy service to its customers and an inventory and assessment of the embedded technology in its equipment, machinery and operating systems will be completed by year-end 1998. Con Edison plans that any necessary changes to its other systems, infrastructure and embedded technologies will be completed by June 1999. Con Edison intends to continue to test its Year 2000 readiness throughout 1999."

My favorite part, however is this paragraph:

"Con Edison expects that its program will be adequate to address its Year 2000 issues, but nevertheless intends to develop a contingency plan in early 1999. There can, of course, be no assurance as to whether the contingency plan will successfully address any contingencies that arise. In the event that Con Edison is unsuccessful in addressing its Year 2000 issues, there could be a material adverse effect on Con Edison's financial condition, results of operations and liquidity."

Great, thanks guys. This is the Electric Utilitiy for New York F*****G City! Notice that they "expect", they're NOT "doing everything to ensure." I don't mean to sound like a New York-centric snob, but If Manhattan goes down, the rest of the world goes down. I'm so glad I'm gonna be outta here...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), November 20, 1998.

My company is doing so well, this is all that appears for their SEC filing:

Item 3. Quantitative and Qualitative Disclosure About Market Risk of NorAm (omitted pursuant to General Instruction H(2)(c))

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 20, 1998.

Thanks Kevin, great link. FYI, the info in the Sec filing doesn't match the happy face insert they gave out with the last bill. No surprise there I guess. I cut/pasted the Y2K part, and will give it to some folks that live around here who don't believe there's even a chance we could be wihtout electricity. If they won't take it from me, maybe they'll take it from the 'horse's mouth'.

-- Robert Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), November 20, 1998.

Posting separately on PG&E -- too long but interesting. Thanks Kevin.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 20, 1998.

Thanks. A little frightening to read. I have heard from a friend who works with ComEd (chicago) that there are national tests scheduled for the electric companies. From what I understood the tests were scheduled by the Federal Government to take place in April and September. Anybody else heard of this? Based on what I have heard and seen (for the CEI at least) I'm not sure if the April test will be as successful as the companies anticpate. Isn't April a little late to find out you still have remediation to do? September is much too late to find out if those remediations worked or not. Has anybody else heard of these tests? What is the likelihood that Joe Q Public will hear about the results?

-- Christine A. Newbie (vaganti01@aol.com), November 20, 1998.

Christine:

NO

Sort of

NO

Slim and none

(in order)

And "Sort of" is only "sort of" because it depends on what one finds.

Also, I would not be surprised if these were more GRID tests than anything else. And, if they are, then we WILL find out because we'll probably notice the transient (on CAN hope) power outage as they don't quite pass.

-- Chuck a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), November 20, 1998.

Chuck,

<<<< consumer alert in cleve. p.s. consumer alert is simply my alias, i got blown up to much on here to give real identity. Now i'm shy. but the xanex does help.

-- consumer alert (private@aol.com), November 21, 1998.

Dang it.....my post didnt come out all the way., anyone know what i am doing wrong,?

What I tried to ask in the last one was, Chuck could u please expound a little on what this means for CEI? Unable to access the site. Dont know why....

I am cei right now.,,,what about muny?

Please respond, i'll pass u another xanex.

Thanks

-- consumer alert (private@aol.com), November 21, 1998.

My guess is: Had to in April because NO ONE would be ready any earlier to find out what "else" is busted/"re-broken".

Assume many/most have been working for XX months. They don't want to get a "national" test pushed doen their throats until they've got local problems better fixed. Too late, proabably, but it is a start.

This level test is the only one where I'm hoping lots will actually fail. If it fails in Aug, it's too late to make many changes (particualrly equipment and controllers). Massive failures in April would be good news in a certain view. If it were an honest test, very few failures would be even better news.

On the other hand, if the April test has to be delayed, be delayed again, be scaled back, etc. through the summer, it means that "they" do fear failure - and have reason to "expect failures" based on work now underway. That's a very bad indicator.

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 21, 1998.